From the beauty counters of the early 2000s to the spotlight of Gogglebox, Sarah-Marie Fahd has navigated a lot - career shifts, motherhood, media attention, and the messy reality of raising two boys while learning to trust her gut along the way.

In this episode, Emmy sits down with her longtime friend Sarah-Marie for a deeply honest conversation about the stuff nobody prepares you for. From the overwhelming fog of postnatal depression and anxiety with her first baby during COVID, to the stark difference she felt with her second - finally understanding what people meant when they said "this is how it's meant to feel."

They unpack the pressure to have it all together, the myth of the perfect parenting timeline, why deleting the milestone app was one of the best decisions she made, and how her two boys - Zen Master Malik and "Hulk Baby" Leon - taught her that every child is completely different. They talk about the beauty industry's obsession with perfection, losing yourself in early motherhood, the mental load of being the default parent, and why sometimes the best thing you can do is lie on the kitchen floor and look at the ceiling with your toddler.

Real talk. Real friendship. Real motherhood.