How Many CTOs

From Code to Careers: AI's Disruption of Software and Work Itself


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In this episode of "How Many CTOs Does It Take?" podcast, hosts Scott Porad and Brad Hefta-Gaub dive into the fast-evolving world of generative AI—and what it means for the future of software development, careers, and the economy at large.

They unpack how tools like GPT-4o and Claude are shifting the very nature of programming work, boosting productivity while raising deeper questions about the future of white-collar jobs. From the rise of AI-assisted coding to ethical concerns around climate impact and military use, Scott and Brad cover the technical, social, and philosophical stakes of this moment.

They also explore whether a future with fewer human coders could spark bigger societal changes—like universal basic income—and make the case for why adaptability, critical thinking, and a willingness to learn new tools are the keys to surviving (and thriving) in this new AI-powered landscape.

  • 00:00 Introduction and Greetings
  • 00:27 Discussing AI and Augmented Programming
  • 03:20 AI's Impact on Productivity and Society
  • 04:23 Climate Impact and Future Concerns
  • 05:01 AI in Healthcare and Other Applications
  • 08:08 The Future of Software Development
  • 15:40 Generative AI and Personal Projects
  • 24:59 Advice for the Next Generation
  • 27:46 The Challenge of Staying Current
  • 28:33 Specialization vs. Generalization
  • 28:47 The Role of AI in Specialized Jobs
  • 30:20 Navigating the Rapid Tech Changes
  • 31:31 Optimizing AI Collaboration
  • 33:19 Understanding the Cynefin Framework
  • 35:01 Complex vs. Complicated Systems
  • 39:46 AI's Impact on Software Engineering
  • 41:55 The Future of QA and Testing
  • 44:33 Preparing for an AI-Driven Future
  • 49:27 The Debate on Universal Basic Income
  • 51:29 Concluding Thoughts and Ethical Questions
  • 52:26 Outro and Credits

Resources:

  • How Many CTOs Pod: https://howmanyctospod.com
  • Scott Porad: https://www.linkedin.com/in/scottporad/
  • Brad Hefta-Gaub: https://www.linkedin.com/in/bradheftagaub/
  • Why using ChatGPT is not bad for the environment - a cheat sheet: https://andymasley.substack.com/p/a-cheat-sheet-for-conversations-about
  • Cynefin Framework: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cynefin_framework

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How Many CTOsBy Brad Hefta-Gaub & Scott Porad