The Juice - Consumer Direct Podcast

From Data to Dollars: Optimizing Leads with Kamran Bakhtiari


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Welcome to another episode of The Juice Consumer Direct Podcast! Today, hosts Jake Thorpe and Carson Poppenger sit down with Kamran Bakhtiari, a revered figure in the marketing and data science world.

Kam, founder of Leads Optic, dives deep into how his platform is transforming data and process optimization for lead generation. With a rich background in marketing for major mortgage companies and as a Pepperdine instructor, Kam shares invaluable insights into creating efficient systems that maximize lead potential and bridge the gap between marketing and sales.

Discover the art and science behind effective lead buying and the innovations driving today’s marketing strategies.


Kamran Bakhtiari is an expert within the lead generation industry, with full breadth responsibility from lead acquisition through revenue recognition. He has served in senior leadership roles at LoanDepot, PennyMac, Verengo Solar, and Mission Loans and has been a trusted advisor for many organizations including Americor, Solar Optimum, and many other companies. He has led large marketing, call center, and data science teams with the common goal of improving the ROI for large marketing budgets. He currently is the CEO of LeadsOptics, a technology company focused on bringing transparency into the lead purchasing transaction and improving conversion of leads with the power of AI.

Kamran Bakhtiari also has been teaching for over 10 years within the Decision Sciences program at Pepperdine University’s Graziadio School of Business and Management in their Executive MBA, Fully Employed MBA, Master of Science in Applied Analytics, and Master of Science in Human Resources programs. Mr. Bakhtiari takes great pride in imparting his students with the intellectual tools to solve real-world business challenges – helping them see through the lens of data and decision science to achieve practical, impactful results.


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