In this episode, Whitney is joined by independent journalist, podcaster and documentary filmmaker Robbie Martin to discuss the suspicious pasts and 9/11-Anthrax ties of Rudy Giuliani and his protege Bernard Kerik and how the "Giuliani Gang" has returned to publicly promote pro-Trump and often Qanon-related narratives that claim to challenge the very "deep state" they have long served. Originally published on January 6, 2021.