In one of the most raw and redemptive episodes of Ex-Psychic Saved, host Jenn Nizza welcomes friend, fellow ex-occultist, and ministry partner Jac Marino Chen for a deeply vulnerable conversation about the dark undercurrents of eating disorders, childhood trauma, and the lies of the New Age movement. From their firsthand experiences with divination, bulimia, and the desperate search for control and identity, Jen and Jac expose how the enemy disguises bondage as empowerment—and how only Christ brings true freedom.

The two share their parallel journeys from deception to deliverance, offering candid reflections on the spiritual warfare behind self-destruction and how even “good” practices like yoga or crystals are gateways to deeper deception. But this isn’t just a warning—it’s a powerful testimony of healing. They reveal how surrendering to Jesus, immersing in God’s Word, and anchoring their identity in Christ has transformed their minds, bodies, and spirits.

This episode is a lifeline to anyone battling lies about their worth, struggling with food or image, or still entangled in the occult. You’ll walk away reminded that freedom is possible, healing is available, and Jesus is the only true way out.

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