Michael White, Co founder and CEO of Multiply, joins the show to talk about the path from engineering leadership to the CEO seat, and what it really takes to build in a high trust, high complexity market. If you are thinking about founder readiness, leadership growth, or where AI creates real value in fintech, this episode gets into the parts that matter.

Michael shares how early entrepreneurial instincts showed up long before Multiply, what changed as he moved from builder to company leader, and why some of the most important skills in leadership have less to do with code and more to do with communication, conviction, and influence. He also breaks down how Multiply is using AI to improve the mortgage experience without removing the human element people still need in a major financial decision.

In this episode:

• The mindset shift from engineer to CEO

• Why leadership becomes a form of sales

• How founder timing can be an advantage, not a delay

• Where AI fits in the mortgage process, and where it does not

• Why startups can move faster than legacy players in AI adoption

Timestamped highlights

00:43 What Multiply is building, and why an AI native mortgage company sees a better path to homeownership

01:47 The childhood business story that hinted at an entrepreneurial future

06:20 What changed in the move from engineering leadership to founder and CEO

08:45 Why so much of leadership comes down to influence, alignment, and selling the vision

17:19 Why mortgages are such a strong use case for AI, and why the back office is the real opportunity

22:39 The startup advantage in AI, speed, focus, and freedom from legacy systems

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