What does it take to drive real change in the automotive world?

In this episode of The Bucket Seat, we sit down with Mathew Growden — aka The Change Optimist — to explore the future of mobility through a lens of optimism, systems thinking, and practical transformation.

From his work leading electric vehicle strategy at Google to his broader view of how technology, infrastructure, and consumer behaviour intersect, Mathew offers a sharp but hopeful perspective on what’s next for the car world.

We dig into:

• ​The real pace of EV adoption (and what’s still holding it back)
• ​The role of software and services in reshaping the ownership experience
• ​How ecosystems — not just products — will define the next decade of mobility
• ​What it means to be a “change optimist” in an industry built on tradition

If you’re into cars, strategy, or just want to hear from someone working on the front lines of transformation, this one’s for you.