Gratitude Blooming Podcast

From Fire to Soil: Navigating Turbulence with Forgiveness


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How might letting go open space for something new (and even different) to grow in your life?

In this episode, co-hosts Belinda Liu and Omar Brownson, joined by season 4 guest, Dr. Paul Wang, explore how we move from the heat of transformation into grounded stillness — from fire to soil. 

Through their personal stories from Hawai‘i, Los Angeles, and the Galápagos, they reflect on navigating rapid change, embracing uncertainty, and trusting the slow process of adaptation.

Dr. Paul shares Daoist wisdom on late summer’s elemental shift, reminding us that fire’s intensity naturally gives way to soil’s stability. Together, they draw the Gratitude Blooming card for Forgiveness, sparking conversation about shedding what no longer serves and letting go with grace, not force.

Whether you’re in a season of growth, shedding, or simply holding steady, this episode offers grounded insight for finding balance, even in turbulent times.

Meet us in person at our upcoming October Gratitude Blooming retreat at Belinda's newest retreat center on the Big Island of Hawaii — use promo code BIGTHANKS for 20% off.

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Create an intentional practice or give meaningful gifts with the Gratitude Blooming card deck, notecards, candles and much much more at our shop at www.gratitudeblooming.com.

Learn more about our co-hosts and special guest for Season 4:

Co-host Belinda Liu | Hestia Retreat Centers

Co-host Omar Brownson | Trickster's Guide to Immortality on Substack

Special Guest Dr. Paul Wang | The Dao Center

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