This episode takes us to the Limpopo province in South Africa for a serene talk with brother Mothomoni Mapela-Mphatja.

Mothomoni is a dear friend and eternal collaborative partner with Spiritus Mundi.

We speak about the power of forgiveness and the meaning of atonement.

How has Covid affected children and youth in South Africa? How is the Rainbow nation doing? Is truth and reconciliation alive?

We talk about Madiba and the consequences of his improbable actions of love and capacity to forgive.

Mothomoni is the founder of Itumeleng Innovation Centre for Youth Development

Like Erik Mothomoni have studied Theology.