When your back is against the wall, you don't get a playbook. You get a choice.

From credit card debt and loan sharks to customs audits and six-figure B2B deals, this episode breaks down what it really looks like to build a business when you have no experience, no safety net, and no margin for error.

Host Casey Voelker and co-host Matthew Nix sit down with Nick Scrivens of Forged Fabrics to unpack how storytelling, quality, and grit turned a struggling apparel startup into a premium B2B brand serving household-name manufacturers.

This isn't just a conversation about shirts. It's about building something that lasts when quitting isn't an option.

In this episode, you'll learn:

• Why betting on yourself often looks irresponsible before it looks smart

• How storytelling creates real brand value in manufacturing

• What happens when you ignore process, numbers, and financial reality

• Why cutting corners kills premium brands

• How Forged Fabrics pivoted from DTC to B2B when everything was on the line

• Why quality and experience matter more than logos and cheap merch

• What manufacturers can learn from building outside their comfort zone

Timestamps:

00;01;23;11 – Why an apparel company belongs on a manufacturing podcast 00;06;43;29 – The idea that sparked the business and early failures 00;10;35;20 – Buying out a partner, stacking debt, and risking it all 00;12;48;24 – Discovering B2B demand and the birth of Forged Fabrics 00;20;06;19 – U.S. Customs audits, sanctions, and nearly losing everything 00;26;24;07 – Why logos are outdated and storytelling builds real brand value

Resources:

Forged Fabrics: https://forgedfabrics.com

Lights Out Podcast by Making Chips: https://makingchips.com/show/lights-out/ Buy the Numbers Podcast by Making Chips: https://makingchips.com/show/buy-the-numbers/

Follow Forged Fabrics on LinkedIn and Instagram to see how storytelling shows up in real manufacturing brands.