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After losing their daughters — Lucy and Brynlee — cousins Kyle and Zach found themselves walking parallel paths through unimaginable loss and slow, patient healing.

In this powerful conversation, Zach shares the story of Brynlee's stillbirth and how he and his wife, began rebuilding their lives while honoring her memory. Together, Kyle and Zach open up about the unseen side of grief, the guilt that fathers often carry, and how men can learn to grieve out loud instead of in silence.

Zach explains how he transformed his pain into purpose — starting a local support group for parents navigating pregnancy and infant loss, speaking publicly for the first time, and finding meaning by helping others heal.

This episode is for anyone learning to live after loss — parents, partners, or friends trying to understand what it means to move forward with both love and grief in hand.

Topics Covered:

Grief, guilt, and the father’s role in loss

The power of community and shared healing

How men can process emotion without shame

Turning tragedy into purpose and leadership

Chapters

00:00 — Introduction
03:40 — Brynlee’s Story: The Day Everything Changed
10:55 — Grieving as a Father: Isolation and Silent Pain
18:30 — The Unseen Weight: Guilt, Faith, and Questions Without Answers
26:15 — Communicating Grief: Marriage, Family, and Support Systems
34:10 — Finding Purpose in Pain: The Early Stages of Healing
42:55 — Building Community: The Birth of the Support Group
51:45 — Leadership Through Vulnerability
58:20 — Hope and Legacy: Keeping Brinley’s Memory Alive
1:04:40 — Closing Reflections: Living Forward with Love and Grief