Julia welcomes Josh and Heather, a couple who have transformed their 23-year marriage through coaching and attending Breakthrough couples retreats over the past five years.

• Heather has gone from weekly angry outbursts to zero, while Josh has reduced his interrupting by 40%

• Their relationship once featured little communication, with Heather's outbursts driven by feelings of "not being enough"

• Josh describes how his need to control conversations stemmed from fear of abandonment and loneliness

• The couple experienced an "atomic bomb" moment when Josh's infidelity was revealed, forcing them to choose between real change or separation

• Heather learned to recognize her "impaired thinking" patterns and voice her needs instead of shutting down

• Josh discovered that what he thought was love (based on childhood observations) wasn't actually healthy connection

• Both emphasize that working on their individual relationships with themselves was crucial to healing their marriage

• They now describe their marriage as "exciting not dreaded" and find joy in the work of relationship

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