Magic in the Muck

From Patterns to Possibility: Healing in Community Through Family Systems & the Satir Model


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Fresh home from Thailand, Jennifer reflects on what healing in community actually feels like in real time—when people risk vulnerability, are met with care, and something inside (and between) them shifts. This episode is a grounded reminder that chaos can be part of change—and that transformation often happens fastest when we’re not doing it alone.

What You’ll Hear:

  1. Why “a place to land” matters after insight—so what’s been stirred can be held, not managed alone
  2. A simple Satir reminder: chaos isn’t failure—it’s often the doorway to transformation when the old patterns stop working
  3. How family patterns are adaptations, not pathology—and what changes when we revisit them with compassion
  4. A confidentiality-protected story from a live sculpt: how choice, breath, and support helped someone re-enter the process and find inner harmony
  5. A couple’s “dance” under stress—how space and closeness can become reciprocity instead of reactivity
  6. The felt sense of the group field: attunement, validation, and “oneness”—when it stops being one person’s story and becomes our shared human story


Resources Mentioned

  1. Previous episode: Jennifer’s interview with Merissa Turner on healing in community and creating “responsible holding” beyond passive inspiration
  2. Next episode: Jennifer’s upcoming interview with Gary Turner (Merissa’s partner and co-founder of Thrive.one) — on storytelling, holding, and collective healing
  3. Framework referenced: The Satir Model (Virginia Satir) and family systems-informed sculpting as a pathway from patterns to possibility


Meet the Host: Jennifer Nagel

Jennifer Nagel is a soul-centered counsellor, international facilitator, and best-selling author who has spent over two decades helping people navigate chaos, reconnect with their inner wisdom, and create meaningful, authentic lives. Deeply rooted in the Satir Model and experiential approaches to transformation, Jennifer brings a grounded presence, sharp insight, and a deep trust in the resources of the human spirit.

Her work spans continents and cultures — she has led programs and trainings in Canada, China, Kenya, Thailand, and Mexico, and currently serves as Director of Trainer Development with the Satir Institute of the Pacific. She is also senior faculty with the Banmen Satir China Management Centre.

Jennifer is the author of Magic in the Muck: Finding Grace in Chaos, co-author of Virginia Satir’s Evolving Legacy, and founder and co-author of the collaborative books Therapists Are Human Too and The Healing Journey to Authenticity, created through book-writing retreats she co-facilitated in Mexico.


Connect with the Host:

Website: www.jennifernagelcounselling.com

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jennifernagel1/

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/jennifer.nagel.566

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jennifernagelcounselling/


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Magic in the MuckBy Jennifer Nagel