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You are not imagining it. People pleasing is rarely about being “nice.” It is often a survival strategy, learned early as a way to belong, avoid disappointment, and stay emotionally safe in the systems that shaped you.
In this episode of Emotionally Wealthy, Karen sits down with Dr. Vinita Menon, clinical psychologist and the force behind Thrive Collective and The Thrive Mind, to explore the emotional roots of people pleasing. Together, they unpack how high-achieving women, especially those navigating cultural identity, immigration, and gendered expectations, learn to “crack the code” of belonging. Sometimes that code begins with something as small and painful as changing how you pronounce your own name.
They explore the pressure of dual identity, the “time warp” phenomenon many immigrant families experience, and why people pleasing often shows up as conflict avoidance, even when your intuition is screaming that something is wrong. This conversation goes beyond behavior and into the deeper questions underneath it: Do I matter? Does my voice count? What do I want?
This is not about rejecting your upbringing. It is about integrating your identity, listening to your body’s signals, and learning to advocate for yourself without guilt, shutdown, or the need to perform for approval.
Who This Episode Is For00:00 Welcome to Emotionally Wealthy
00:34 Meet Dr. Vinita Menon and why this topic matters
02:46 Early identity messages, being the “only one,” and belonging
07:18 Immigrant parenting, permissions, and unspoken expectations
11:45 Dual identity and learning to compartmentalize before integrating
17:04 First-gen vs second-gen experiences and the “time warp” effect
24:35 The chameleon metaphor and how people pleasing develops
29:32 Gender roles, conflict avoidance, and why it backfires
34:02 All-or-nothing thinking and getting out of the “good girl” box
35:50 Gentle experiments that build self-advocacy
39:09 The core wound underneath people pleasing: “Do I matter?”
41:40 Why change must feel safe before it sticks
43:52 Body awareness and nervous system signals
50:26 Tools: asking, making requests, and “What do I want?”
53:32 Parts work and integration
57:54 Where to find Dr. Menon and her resources
01:01:14 Disclaimer
A Gentle InvitationStart with one question: What do I want? Not what is expected. Not what keeps the peace. Just what feels true. Emotional wealth grows when we include ourselves fully in our own lives.
Connect with Dr. MenonFree Discovery Call for Coaching Services: https://calendar.app.google/e9mTRJ1UedRx2Qwz6
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/dr.vinitamenon/
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/dr-vinita-menon/
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=61561041713585
Websites: https://www.thethrivemind.co | https://www.mythrivecollective.com
Resources and LinksKaren Conlon Website: https://karenconlon.com/
Stan Store: https://stan.store/Karen_Conlon_Live_Fulfilled
Join the Podcast Waitlist: https://tr.ee/tvJheN-ZuS
Book Karen as a Podcast Guest: https://tr.ee/iWevZKi98b
Free Guide: https://tr.ee/S9RaDg3Fjt
The Teenager’s Guide: https://tr.ee/6m7QMNzVGw
Manage Your Anxiety Workbook: https://tr.ee/kzbcwm31SH
Review on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/id1814244500?action=write-review
Connect with Karen
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/karen_conlon_lcsw/
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=61559407463659
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/karenconlonlcsw/
Threads: https://www.threads.com/@karen_conlon_lcsw
Substack: https://karenconlon.substack.com/
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCy-yaUREWiHBJNxwze7zI4w
Listen
Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/emotionally-wealthy/id1814244500
Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/1BxaZasAk68BD5mRkD59cI?si=b406d5735eae4304
By Karen ConlonYou are not imagining it. People pleasing is rarely about being “nice.” It is often a survival strategy, learned early as a way to belong, avoid disappointment, and stay emotionally safe in the systems that shaped you.
In this episode of Emotionally Wealthy, Karen sits down with Dr. Vinita Menon, clinical psychologist and the force behind Thrive Collective and The Thrive Mind, to explore the emotional roots of people pleasing. Together, they unpack how high-achieving women, especially those navigating cultural identity, immigration, and gendered expectations, learn to “crack the code” of belonging. Sometimes that code begins with something as small and painful as changing how you pronounce your own name.
They explore the pressure of dual identity, the “time warp” phenomenon many immigrant families experience, and why people pleasing often shows up as conflict avoidance, even when your intuition is screaming that something is wrong. This conversation goes beyond behavior and into the deeper questions underneath it: Do I matter? Does my voice count? What do I want?
This is not about rejecting your upbringing. It is about integrating your identity, listening to your body’s signals, and learning to advocate for yourself without guilt, shutdown, or the need to perform for approval.
Who This Episode Is For00:00 Welcome to Emotionally Wealthy
00:34 Meet Dr. Vinita Menon and why this topic matters
02:46 Early identity messages, being the “only one,” and belonging
07:18 Immigrant parenting, permissions, and unspoken expectations
11:45 Dual identity and learning to compartmentalize before integrating
17:04 First-gen vs second-gen experiences and the “time warp” effect
24:35 The chameleon metaphor and how people pleasing develops
29:32 Gender roles, conflict avoidance, and why it backfires
34:02 All-or-nothing thinking and getting out of the “good girl” box
35:50 Gentle experiments that build self-advocacy
39:09 The core wound underneath people pleasing: “Do I matter?”
41:40 Why change must feel safe before it sticks
43:52 Body awareness and nervous system signals
50:26 Tools: asking, making requests, and “What do I want?”
53:32 Parts work and integration
57:54 Where to find Dr. Menon and her resources
01:01:14 Disclaimer
A Gentle InvitationStart with one question: What do I want? Not what is expected. Not what keeps the peace. Just what feels true. Emotional wealth grows when we include ourselves fully in our own lives.
Connect with Dr. MenonFree Discovery Call for Coaching Services: https://calendar.app.google/e9mTRJ1UedRx2Qwz6
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/dr.vinitamenon/
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/dr-vinita-menon/
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=61561041713585
Websites: https://www.thethrivemind.co | https://www.mythrivecollective.com
Resources and LinksKaren Conlon Website: https://karenconlon.com/
Stan Store: https://stan.store/Karen_Conlon_Live_Fulfilled
Join the Podcast Waitlist: https://tr.ee/tvJheN-ZuS
Book Karen as a Podcast Guest: https://tr.ee/iWevZKi98b
Free Guide: https://tr.ee/S9RaDg3Fjt
The Teenager’s Guide: https://tr.ee/6m7QMNzVGw
Manage Your Anxiety Workbook: https://tr.ee/kzbcwm31SH
Review on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/id1814244500?action=write-review
Connect with Karen
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/karen_conlon_lcsw/
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=61559407463659
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/karenconlonlcsw/
Threads: https://www.threads.com/@karen_conlon_lcsw
Substack: https://karenconlon.substack.com/
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCy-yaUREWiHBJNxwze7zI4w
Listen
Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/emotionally-wealthy/id1814244500
Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/1BxaZasAk68BD5mRkD59cI?si=b406d5735eae4304