People Pleasing, Culture & Self-AssertionYou are not imagining it. People pleasing is rarely about being “nice.” It is often a survival strategy, learned early as a way to belong, avoid disappointment, and stay emotionally safe in the systems that shaped you.
In this episode of Emotionally Wealthy, Karen sits down with Dr. Vinita Menon, clinical psychologist and the force behind Thrive Collective and The Thrive Mind, to explore the emotional roots of people pleasing. Together, they unpack how high-achieving women, especially those navigating cultural identity, immigration, and gendered expectations, learn to “crack the code” of belonging. Sometimes that code begins with something as small and painful as changing how you pronounce your own name.
They explore the pressure of dual identity, the “time warp” phenomenon many immigrant families experience, and why people pleasing often shows up as conflict avoidance, even when your intuition is screaming that something is wrong. This conversation goes beyond behavior and into the deeper questions underneath it: Do I matter? Does my voice count? What do I want?
This is not about rejecting your upbringing. It is about integrating your identity, listening to your body’s signals, and learning to advocate for yourself without guilt, shutdown, or the need to perform for approval.
Who This Episode Is For
- High-achieving women who feel stuck in people pleasing
- Adults navigating cultural identity, immigrant family dynamics, or “dual identity” pressure
- Anyone raised with rigid gender roles or high expectations
- Professionals who feel confident at work, but struggle to speak up or self-advocate
- Parents noticing how old conditioning shows up in how they lead, delegate, or set boundaries
- Anyone who wants authenticity without losing belonging
Key Themes
- People pleasing as survival and “blending in” behavior
- First-gen vs second-gen immigrant dynamics and the guilt gap
- Dual identity pressure and the belief you must be “100 percent of everything”
- When privacy, loyalty, and family expectations shape self-silencing
- The confusion between conversation and confrontation
- Workplace patterns: being overlooked, talked over, or passed up due to self-minimizing
- Body awareness as the missing link in self-trust
- Practical, low-stakes ways to rebuild self-advocacy
- Parts work and why old protective parts still run the show
Thoughtful Takeaways
- People pleasing often begins as protection, then outlives its purpose.
- Many women were rewarded for blending in, not for having needs.
- Your nervous system often knows the truth before your mind is ready to name it.
- Self-advocacy is a skill, not a personality trait.
- The goal is not “all or nothing.” It is learning nuance and choice.
- Asking yourself What do I want? is a quiet way to reclaim your voice.
- You can honor your culture and still include yourself.
Practical Tools Mentioned
- Practice asking for small things in low-stakes settings (a straw, a refill, extra napkins).
- Build a middle ground response when “no” feels too hard: “Let me think about it.”
- Delay immediate replies so you are not automatically volunteering your yes.
- Ask yourself often: What do I want from this conversation?
- Notice what your body does when you speak up versus when you stay quiet.
- Explore your “parts”: which version of you is speaking, and how old is she?
Memorable Quotes
- “What do I want?”
- “Do I matter? Does my voice count?”
- “People pleasing backfires.”
- “We think it. We do not always have to say it.”
- “You can honor where you come from without abandoning who you are.”
Timestamped Chapters
00:00 Welcome to Emotionally Wealthy
00:34 Meet Dr. Vinita Menon and why this topic matters
02:46 Early identity messages, being the “only one,” and belonging
07:18 Immigrant parenting, permissions, and unspoken expectations
11:45 Dual identity and learning to compartmentalize before integrating
17:04 First-gen vs second-gen experiences and the “time warp” effect
24:35 The chameleon metaphor and how people pleasing develops
29:32 Gender roles, conflict avoidance, and why it backfires
34:02 All-or-nothing thinking and getting out of the “good girl” box
35:50 Gentle experiments that build self-advocacy
39:09 The core wound underneath people pleasing: “Do I matter?”
41:40 Why change must feel safe before it sticks
43:52 Body awareness and nervous system signals
50:26 Tools: asking, making requests, and “What do I want?”
53:32 Parts work and integration
57:54 Where to find Dr. Menon and her resources
01:01:14 Disclaimer
A Gentle Invitation
Start with one question: What do I want? Not what is expected. Not what keeps the peace. Just what feels true. Emotional wealth grows when we include ourselves fully in our own lives.
Connect with Dr. Menon
Free Discovery Call for Coaching Services: https://calendar.app.google/e9mTRJ1UedRx2Qwz6
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/dr.vinitamenon/
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/dr-vinita-menon/
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Websites: https://www.thethrivemind.co | https://www.mythrivecollective.com
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