In this episode of TheTherapodcast, Dr. Martin Wesley and Dr. David Whittinghill sit down with Dr. Rob Lima and special guest Dr. Marty Jencius to talk about unexpected career paths and the intersections of media, communication, and counselor education. Marty shares his journey from commercial radio to counseling, the frustrations that pushed him toward a PhD, and the lessons he’s carried into his work as an educator, podcaster, and advocate for the profession. The group reflects on identity in counseling, the role of storytelling, and the ways our personal histories shape the way we show up for students and clients.