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  • When Faith Enters the Counseling Room: Ethics, Prayer, and Spiritual Competence

    How should counselors respond when a client asks for prayer? Is it appropriate to share Scripture, recommend meditation, or discuss forgiveness? Where is the line between honoring a client’s spirituality and imposing the counselor’s own beliefs?

    In the second installment of our series on spirituality, religion, and counseling, Dr. Martin Wesley welcomes Dr. Craig Cashwell, Dr. Aparna Ramaswamy, Dr. David Walther, and Dr. Matt Buckley for an engaging discussion about one of the counseling profession’s most nuanced ethical challenges.

    Together, the panel explores what it means to provide spiritually competent counseling while remaining grounded in client autonomy, informed consent, multicultural competence, and professional ethics. Rather than offering simple answers, the conversation wrestles with the complexity counselors face when clients bring deeply held religious or spiritual beliefs into therapy.

    The discussion examines practical questions such as when prayer may be appropriate, how counselors can ethically integrate spiritual practices, the role of forgiveness in healing, and how counselors can avoid unintentionally crossing the line into persuasion or proselytizing. The panel also considers the differences between counseling that helps clients explore their own beliefs and approaches that seek to direct clients toward predetermined religious conclusions.

    Whether you’re a counselor, counselor educator, graduate student, clergy member, or simply interested in the intersection of faith and mental health, this episode offers thoughtful perspectives that encourage humility, self-awareness, and ethical decision-making.

    1 hr 13 min
  • Spirituality, Religion, and Counseling: Personal Journeys, Professional Perspectives

    In this special roundtable episode of Therapodcast, Dr. Martin Wesley and Dr. David Whittinghill begin a thoughtful multi-part conversation on spirituality, religion, ethics, and counseling practice. Joined by distinguished guests Dr. Craig Cashwell, Dr. Aparna Ramaswamy, Dr. David Walther, and Matt Buckley, the discussion explores the diverse personal journeys that have shaped each participant’s understanding of spirituality, faith, meaning-making, and human connection. From experiences within organized religion to contemplative practices, dance, ministry, counseling, and personal transformation, the guests share the stories that have influenced both their lives and their work as helping professionals.

    Rather than debating beliefs or seeking winners and losers, this conversation creates space for respectful dialogue across differing perspectives. The group reflects on how spirituality can serve as a source of healing, identity, purpose, and connection, while also acknowledging experiences of exclusion, harm, and disillusionment that some individuals carry into the counseling process.

    This episode lays the foundation for future discussions on ethical practice, counselor self-awareness, religious diversity, spiritual competence, and how counselors can effectively serve clients whose beliefs and values may differ from their own.

    Whether you identify as religious, spiritual, secular, questioning, or somewhere in between, this conversation invites curiosity, humility, and a deeper appreciation for the many paths people travel in their search for meaning.

    1 hr 6 min
  • Counseling on Trial: The Impact of Chiles v. Salazar

    In this episode of The Therapodcast, Dr. Martin Wesley and Dr. David Whittinghill are joined by Dr. Rob Lima and Dr. Andrea Brooks for a timely, unfiltered conversation on the recent Chiles v. Salazar decision and what it means for the counseling profession.

    The group digs into the tension between professional ethics, counselor autonomy, and constitutional protections, raising hard questions about where guidance ends and coercion begins. With perspectives grounded in counselor education, licensure boards, and national policy, the discussion moves beyond headlines to explore real implications for practice, training, and regulation.

    This is not a surface-level conversation. It’s a candid look at a field navigating legal pressure, ideological divides, and the challenge of staying grounded in both care and clarity.

    1 hr 4 min
  • From Radio Waves to Counseling Voices: A Conversation with Marty Jencius

    In this episode of TheTherapodcast, Dr. Martin Wesley and Dr. David Whittinghill sit down with Dr. Rob Lima and special guest Dr. Marty Jencius to talk about unexpected career paths and the intersections of media, communication, and counselor education. Marty shares his journey from commercial radio to counseling, the frustrations that pushed him toward a PhD, and the lessons he’s carried into his work as an educator, podcaster, and advocate for the profession. The group reflects on identity in counseling, the role of storytelling, and the ways our personal histories shape the way we show up for students and clients.

    56 min
  • Beyond the Exam: Rethinking Counselor Assessment, Gatekeeping, and Faculty Culture

    In this thought-provoking episode, Dr. Martin Wesley and Dr. David Whittinghill, along with guests Dr. Eric Beeson, Dr. Matt Buckley, Dr. Jerry Juhnke, Dr. Jill Sauerheber, and Dr. Giscard Petion, tackle the evolving challenges of assessing counseling students in a complex, people-centered profession. From video vignettes and AI simulations to the realities of gatekeeping, faculty dynamics, and accreditation hurdles, this conversation explores what's working and what needs to change. The group unpacks national testing redundancy, student quality concerns, and more, all while advocating for innovation, integrity, and diversity in counselor education.

    1 hr 5 min
  • CACREP Residency Compliance: A conversation with Eric Beeson on CACREP Policy A.2.e

    In this timely and thought-provoking episode, Dr. Martin Wesley and Dr. David Whittinghill are joined by side hosts Dr. Laura Schmuldt, Dr. Gerald Juhnke, and Matthew Buckley for a deep dive into CACREP Policy A.2.e, the newly enforced requirement for in-person synchronous sessions in counseling programs. Their guest, Dr. Eric Beeson of Marshall University, shares his expertise and ongoing efforts to advocate for equitable, evidence-based accreditation standards that recognize the effectiveness of diverse digital learning models.

    Together, the group explores the unintended consequences of residency mandates on rural and online programs, including financial burdens on students and faculty, logistical hurdles, and the questionable research base behind the policy. They discuss creative solutions such as shared residency models, simulation learning, and data-driven assessment strategies, all while reflecting on the broader implications for counselor education and accreditation reform.

    Whether you’re a counselor educator, program administrator, or graduate student navigating these shifts, this episode offers a candid and constructive conversation about what’s at stake and what can be done.

    1 hr 4 min
  • Challenging the Status Quo: A Conversation with Aaron Kindsvatter on CACREP and Civil Rights

    In this provocative episode, Dr. Martin Wesley and Dr. David Whittinghill, along with Dr. Gerald Juhnke, host Dr. Aaron Kindsvatter for a candid discussion about the recent civil rights complaint filed against CACREP, alleging ideological bias in counselor education. Dr. Kindsvatter, a vocal critic of what he sees as growing ideological conformity in the field, has sparked national conversation and controversy through his writings and recent activity on CESNET. Together, the panel explores the implications of the complaint, the boundaries of academic freedom, and whether CACREP’s standards are veering away from neutrality in counselor training. Whether you agree or disagree, this conversation will challenge assumptions and invite deeper reflection on the future of counselor education.

    1 hr 19 min
  • Navigating Loss in Academia and Counseling

    Welcome to Navigating Loss in Academia and Counseling, a podcast where we explore the personal and professional impact of loss within academic and counseling communities. In this episode, Dr. Martin Wesley and Dr. David Whittinghill are joined by special guests Dr. Laura Schmuldt, Dr. Jerry Juhnke, and Victoria Henderson for a deeply personal and insightful discussion on losing a colleague, faculty member, or student.

    Loss is an inevitable yet profoundly challenging experience, especially within academic and counseling settings, where close relationships are formed between faculty, students, and colleagues. In this episode, we share our experiences of navigating grief, both personally and in our roles as educators and counselors. We reflect on the lasting impact our colleagues and students had on us and discuss the ways we’ve helped our students and peers cope with these difficult moments.

    Dr. David Whittinghill shares his deeply personal story of loss—not only of a beloved colleague and wife but also his own near-death experience. His perspective sheds light on resilience, healing, and the intersection of personal and professional grief.

    Join us for this meaningful conversation on honoring those we’ve lost, supporting one another through grief, and finding ways to carry their legacy forward in our work and lives.

    1 hr 9 min
  • DEI in Counseling and Counselor Education

    In this episode, we explore Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion (DEI) in Counseling and Counselor Education with special guests Dr. Rick Balkin, Dr. Laura Schmuldt, Dr. Lourdes Araujo, and Demetrius Jifunza. Our discussion examines the well-intended goals of DEI and the challenges it has faced in achieving its ideals. We also address the complexities of discussing DEI in today’s climate, where open conversations on the topic can be difficult and even professionally risky—an irony that contradicts the very purpose of engaging in meaningful dialogue. Additionally, we delve into the impact of DEI on faculty hiring and its influence on grant funding decisions.

    1 hr 12 min
  • Election Reflection for Counseling and Counselor Education

    In this thought-provoking episode, we are joined by special guests Dr. Laura Schmuldt and Rob Lima for a candid discussion on the impact of political polarization—both in society and within the field of counseling. As the nation faces unprecedented divides, the role of counselors and counselor educators has never been more critical in fostering understanding and bridging gaps. Yet, even within our profession, differing political perspectives often hinder meaningful dialogue and collaboration.

    Together, we explore the challenges that are fracturing our field, delve into the cultural and systemic forces driving division, and share practical strategies for creating open, respectful conversations across ideological lines. Whether you’re a practicing counselor, an educator, or simply curious about navigating polarization in your own life, this episode offers valuable insights and actionable tips for fostering unity and empathy in a divided world.

    59 min

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