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From Rescuer to Coach: rethinking our roles in sustainability - with Marta Abramska


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In this episode, I chat with Marta Abramska, who is an executive coach and led the Animas Transformative Coach training I took earlier this year. We deep dive into the Drama Triangle which explores the different roles we may take up when we are in a dysfunctional interaction - whether that’s with ourselves, with other people or with the wider system.

We explore the different roles like Rescuer, Victim, and Persecutor, and share examples of how these roles play out, why it can be hard to step away from them, and what’s possible when we do. We explore a particular example in depth of the experience of someone trying to live sustainably and how we can move between these different roles from the rescuer - trying to save the world, the victim - feeling resentful or like ‘what’s the point?’ and the persecutor - blaming or being angry at other people and their actions. We talk about what impact it has to be in these roles and we discuss ways to bring self-compassionate awareness when these dynamics are playing out in order to shift from reactive roles toward more empowering roles. So that we can learn to take a pause and step into the Coach, the Creator and the Challenger roles that enable more healthy and dynamic relationships.

I hope you enjoy this conversation and it offers you some insight into the roles you can play and how to create space for more empowering and helpful interactions with yourself, with others and with the wider systems and circumstances of your life.

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Marta transitioned from a 15-year corporate career in financial services and the insurance sector to become a full-time coach in 2018. Previously, she held people leadership roles in risk management and at a Big Four consultancy, where she discovered her passion for helping others grow and thrive. Today, Marta brings her coaching skills, insights, and lived experiences to clients across various industries and career stages.

A qualified coach, coach supervisor, and mentor with an ICF PCC credential, Marta is committed to high standards of practice. She believes meaningful work-life transformation is accessible to everyone, often without a drastic career overhaul. As part of the faculty at Animas and the International Centre for Coaching Supervision, Marta is dedicated to supporting others in her profession. Her greatest fulfillment comes from seeing clients gain clarity and confidence to build a life they love and become the best leaders they can be.

Having navigated major life transitions herself—multiple relocations, balancing side ventures, and parenthood—Marta brings a practical, empathetic, and deeply connected approach to coaching. Find her on her website: www.martaabramska.com.

Read Marta’s articles on topics like the inner critic, the drama triangle, and imposter phenomenon: www.martaabramska.com/articles

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On Becoming the Change PodcastBy Heather Lynch