About The Eight Mindsets podcast:

What mindsets are critical to leading the hearts, minds and behaviours of any team? What are the keys to success to actually moving the needle, as a leader of a business – or of a legal, compliance, risk or HR function?

The answer is a distinctive multidisciplinary approach based in business and brain science — that’s what The Eight Mindsets is all about.

The podcast is hosted by the founders of The Eight Mindset initiative — both practicing lawyers, both creative compliance consultants, and both successful business leaders:  Nicole Rose of Untold Compliance in Australia, and Jason Meyer of LeadGood Education in the United States.

Based on their conversations with global business leaders, they incorporate Law, Leadership, Compliance, Ethics, Training, HR, Risk, Management, Corporate Culture, Corporate Responsibility, Conduct, Code of Conduct, Education, Entrepreneurship and brain science into their discussions.

In this episode, we sit down with Pav Gill, the whistleblower from the Wirecard scandal, to explore one of the most profound shifts in compliance leadership today. Pav shares his personal journey of exposing Wirecard’s multibillion-dollar fraud, offering invaluable insights into leadership accountability and compliance empowerment.

Key insights include:

Pav’s story is a powerful reminder that when compliance is sidelined, ethical blind spots can grow—and why proactive leadership is essential for a healthy corporate culture.

  About the Eight Mindsets:

The Eight Mindsets range from thinking like an advertiser to thinking like a storyteller. But the overriding mindsets that we always focus on are the Mindset of the Audience and the Mindset of the Entrepreneur – keeping your audience, your objectives, resourcefulness and innovation front of mind. If you want to be on the show, get in touch with Nicole Rose or Jason Meyer on LinkedIn.

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Music for the podcast is “Tropicana” by Soundroll, via Uppbeat.