The Changelog: Software Development, Open Source

From WeWork to upskilling at Wilco (Interview)


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This week we’re joined by On Freund, former VP of Engineering at WeWork and now co-founder & CEO of Wilco. WeWork you may have heard of, but Wilco maybe not (yet).

We get into the details behind the tech and scaling of WeWork, comparisons of the fictional series on Apple TV+ called WeCrashed and how much of that is true. Then we move on to Wilco which is what has On’s full attention right now. Wilco has the potential to be the next big thing for developers to acquire new skills. Wilco aims to be the ultimate simulator to gain new skills on a real-life tech stack. If you want to skip ahead, you can request access at trywilco.com/changelog — they are moving our listeners to the top of the waiting list.

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  • Featuring:

    • On Freund – Website, GitHub, LinkedIn, X
    • Adam Stacoviak – Website, GitHub, LinkedIn, Mastodon, X
    • Jerod Santo – GitHub, LinkedIn, Mastodon, X

    Show Notes:

    • Wilco
    • Wilco “Hello world”
    • Wilco gamifies your path through your software engineering career
    • Wilco on Product Hunt
    • WeWork
    • WeCrashed on Wikepedia
    • The History of WeWork.com: From Wordpress to John Quincy Adams
    • Something missing or broken? PRs welcome!

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