Podcast co-hosts and co-editors of the book From White Folks Who Teach in the Hood, Dr. Christopher Emdin and sam seidel speak with Lisa Graustein. Lisa (she/her) is a queer mother, artist, former middle and high school teacher, Quaker minister, DEI facilitator of European and Persian
heritage living on Neponset Band of the Massachusett land, and is the author of an essay in
From White Folks Who Teach in the Hood. In the essay, titled "White Racial Identity Development and Race-Based Affinity Groups," Lisa builds on the work of Rita Hardiman and Janet Helms to offer a transformative approach to anti-racist teacher training. In this episode, Chris and sam ask her about where traditional DEI professional development goes wrong, abandoning the ideal of "colorblindness," and how to deal with white people in positions of power who have not interrogated their own whiteness.