Chances are, one of the 400 household brands today’s guest oversees is sitting somewhere in your home right now. Maybe it’s Dove in the shower, Vaseline in the drawer, or Hellmann’s mayo in the fridge. Leandro Barreto is the Global Chief Marketing Officer of Unilever, a nearly 100-year-old company behind brands used by billions of people around the world. 

From the award-winning “Vaseline Verified” campaign to creator-led marketing strategies and partnerships with Arsenal Football Club, this episode of Frontier CMO unpacks what it’s like to be a CMO leading through an AI transformation aimed at building “desire at scale.” 

Want to know what the future of marketing actually looks like inside one of the biggest consumer brands in the world? This one’s for you.

00:00 Can AI Create Human Insight?

01:01 Meet Unilever’s Global CMO

03:00 The Power of Purpose-Led Brands

05:00 Why Creativity Is Still Human

07:00 The Vaseline Love Story

09:00 Marketing’s Evolution at Unilever

11:00 Dove and Cultural Relevance

13:00 How Unilever Tracks Culture

15:45 The Vaseline Verified Phenomenon

19:30 Social Commerce & New Growth

20:00 The Biggest Brand Mistake

22:00 AI and the Future of Marketing

26:00 Big Ideas + Content at Scale

27:45 Leading AI Transformation

29:00 Signal vs. Noise

31:30 Three Marketing Lessons to Remember

Teams are moving faster than ever, producing more content, running more campaigns, and optimizing everything. But without strategy, it’s mostly noise. 

In this episode of Frontier CMO, Josh travels to London to sit down with Mark Ritson, brand strategist, former marketing professor, and advisor to companies like LVMH, Sephora, and Donna Karan, to talk about the state of marketing, which frankly is a mess. 

Based on new global research, Ritson argues that most marketers don’t actually understand the fundamentals of marketing. In an AI-driven world, that’s about to matter a lot more. 

Drawing on examples from brands like Apple, Nike, Target and Walmart, Ritson shares his hot takes on who’s getting it right, who’s getting it wrong, and why brand building is still one of the most misunderstood and undervalued parts of marketing. 

They also get into what’s coming next and how to position yourself to stand out in an AI-driven marketing world. 

No matter where you are in your career, this is what it takes to not get left behind.

00:00 – The Marketing Knowledge Crisis

04:09 – Has America Lost Its Marketing Edge?

05:31 – Why Creators and Brand Ads Work Together

09:24 – The Most Important Job of a CMO

10:13 – Strategy Before Tactics

13:08 – The Skills Marketers Need in the AI Era

15:43 – AI as a Marketing Superpower

18:10 – Walmart, Target & Great Positioning

21:25 – How to Build a Strong Brand Positioning

24:00 – What Founders Teach Us About Branding

27:19 – Mark Ritson's Biggest Marketing Mistake

37:18 – AI Clones, Digital Twins & The Future of Marketing

On this special episode of the Frontier CMO podcast, host Josh Spanier, VP of AI and Marketing Strategy at Google, sits down with two of the driving forces shaping the future of AI and creative: Robert Wong, head of Google’s Creative Lab, and Josh Woodward, head of Google Labs, Gemini, & AI Studio. 

Together, they tell the story of how their teams of engineers and marketers came together to create Flow, a groundbreaking AI tool that is unlocking creativity and storytelling in marketing, Hollywood and beyond.

Taped at Google Marketing Live, Google’s biggest marketing event of the year, this conversation offers a rare look at how Google is reimagining creativity in the age of AI.

0:00 – AI’s Creative Breakthrough Moment

2:05 – Mind-Blowing AI Projects & Experiences

4:15 – Building Gemini & What’s “Almost Possible”

6:15 – Bringing Soul & Humanity Into AI

7:20 – Staying Ahead in the AI Era

10:05 – Lowering Fear to Unlock Creativity

12:05 – The Frustrations & Limits of AI

15:05 – Why AI Still Needs Human Creativity

16:00 – Building Flow for Creative Professionals

20:05 – The Future of Personalized AI Tools

22:00 – The Best Google AI Tools to Try Now

25:05 – Why Great Creative Still Matters

26:00 – The AI Creative Renaissance Ahead

Most football clubs are built around matchday but not Arsenal. As it enters its 140th year, the team in a lot of ways, is only just getting started. 

In this episode of Frontier CMO, Josh travels to London to meet Juliet Slot, Chief Commercial Officer at Arsenal Football Club, on home turf to go inside the playbook behind one of the most engaged global fanbases in sports. 

From the rapid rise of the women’s league to the clubs’ staying power of “cool,” Juliet shares why serving your fanbase is better than trying to sell them. 

This conversation lands at a historic moment with the club reaching its first UEFA Champions League Final in 20 years and is within reach from capturing the Premier League title. As FIFA tournaments kick off around the globe, this is your front row ticket to exploring how one of the world’s biggest clubs is making its mark across platforms, geographies, and generations.

00:00 Arsenal’s Global Brand Philosophy

02:00 Serving Fans Beyond Match Day

04:10 Building a Modern Global Football Brand

06:00 Fashion, Culture & the Arsenal Identity

07:30 Personalization, Content & AI Strategy

09:40 Understanding Different Types of Fans

10:45 Measuring Real Fan Engagement

12:30 The Viral Women’s Football Dating Campaign

14:00 Fans as Co-Creators of the Arsenal Brand

16:30 Authentic Marketing vs. Over-Selling

18:40 Growing Arsenal Women Into a Global Business

22:45 Choosing the Right Brand Partnerships

24:20 Purpose-Driven Campaigns & “No More Red”

25:45 Creating One Unified Club Culture

27:00 Winning Beyond Trophies

29:20 The Future of Sports, Tech & Virtual Viewing

32:00 Why Arsenal Resonates Around the World

34:00 Final Lessons on Community & Long-Term Growth

Marketing is entering its most complex era yet. AI is accelerating everything—but the real challenge is making sense of a system that is fragmenting faster than ever.

In this episode of Frontier CMO, Josh Spanier sits down with Asmita Dubey, Chief Digital and Marketing Officer at L’Oréal Groupe, who leads digital transformation across the world’s largest beauty company. With more than 90,000 employees and dozens of global brands, Asmita is responsible for navigating how AI, data, and creativity reshape marketing at enterprise scale.

The conversation explores why fragmentation defines modern marketing—from the consumer journey to the marketing organization itself—and how leaders must respond by building systems that scale learning. Asmita shares how L’Oréal has operationalized transformation through massive upskilling, AI-powered content creation, and a culture built around what she calls the “dual muscle” of math and magic: the balance of technology, creativity, speed, and brand building. 

For CMOs and founders navigating a moment where AI is reshaping every layer of marketing—from insight to creation to commerce—this conversation offers a practical blueprint for leading transformation while protecting the creative heart of the brand.

00:00 – The Marketer’s Dilemma: Fragmentation in the AI Era

01:00 – Meet Asmita Dubey & L’Oréal’s “Math + Magic” Philosophy

02:00 – A Global Career & How Background Shapes Leadership

03:30 – Growing Up in a Family of Teachers & Lifelong Learning

04:45 – Leading Through Influence in a Complex Organization

06:00 – Inside L’Oréal’s Massive Marketing Ecosystem

07:30 – Stakeholders Then vs. Now: The Expanding Marketing Universe

09:00 – Marketing Meets Engineering: The Rise of Beauty Tech

10:30 – Staying Ahead: Culture, Curiosity & Continuous Reinvention

11:45 – Building an Entrepreneurial Culture at Scale

13:00 – Upskilling 30,000+ Marketers & Skill-Based Organizations

15:00 – L’Oréal’s Digital Transformation: From 5% to 30% E-Commerce

17:00 – Changing Consumer Behavior & New Operating Models

19:00 – Measurement Matters: Balancing Short-Term ROI & Brand Equity

21:00 – Lessons from China: Speed, Scale & Consumer-First Thinking

23:30 – Agentic Commerce & the Future of Beauty Shopping

26:00 – Why Fragmentation Is the Biggest Marketing Challenge

29:00 – AI’s Role in Rebundling Marketing & Breaking Silos

31:00 – AI-Powered Consumer & Marketer Journeys Explained

33:00 – Inside L’Oréal’s AI Tools: Creaitech & Content at Scale

35:00 – What’s Next: The Future of Marketing in the AI Era

37:00 – Rapid Fire: Signal vs. Noise (AI, Influencers, Innovation)

40:00 – Final Takeaways: Fragmentation, Learning Systems & Dual Muscle 

Marketing is no longer downstream from product. It is the operating system.

In this episode of Frontier CMO, Josh Spanier sits down with Emma Grede, founding partner and Chief Product Officer at SKIMS, Co Founder & CEO of Good American, and Co Founder of Off Season, to unpack what it really takes to build durable brands in a culture obsessed with moments. Emma shares why product discipline matters more than hype, how to operationalize cultural relevance, and why speed is the ultimate competitive advantage.

The conversation explores AI adoption inside fast-scaling companies, where automation should power the business, and where it should never touch creative. Emma also reflects on talent partnerships, decision velocity, resilience, and why the best leaders aren’t the ones who make perfect decisions, but the ones who make more of them.

For founders and CMOs navigating growth where culture, commerce, and AI collide, this is a blueprint for building brands that last.

Marketing leadership today is defined by pressure: AI disruption, declining trust in institutions, cultural fragmentation, and relentless growth expectations.

In this episode of Frontier CMO, Josh Spanier sits down with Carla Hassan, Chief Marketing Officer of JPMorganChase, who leads more than 3,000 marketers across one of the world’s most recognized financial brands. From her early life shaped by displacement to stewarding a 200+ year-old institution, Carla shares how resilience and clarity shape her leadership.

The conversation explores why “you don’t build trust with a tagline,” how trust is earned locally at scale, and what it really takes to modernize a marketing organization. Carla unpacks how AI is transforming roles from writers to editors, why layering AI onto broken processes fails, and how CMOs must rethink org design, workflows, and decision rights.

For leaders navigating complexity inside large systems, this episode is a candid look at transformation, operational discipline, and building durable brands in uncertain times.

00:00 – Training Teams in the AI Era

01:00 – The Pressure of Being a Modern CMO

02:00 – Carla Hassan’s Journey & Resilience

04:30 – Global vs Local Marketing: Getting It Right

06:30 – Why Brand Consistency is Non-Negotiable

08:30 – Cultural Differences in Money & Messaging

10:30 – Building a Purpose-Driven Global Brand

11:30 – Trust, Transparency & Big Institutions

13:30 – What Modern Marketing Looks Like Today

17:00 – How AI is Reshaping Marketing Teams

20:30 – Speed, Testing & Real-Time Content Feedback

40:30 – Final Takeaways: Trust, AI & Local Relevance

Marketing is being reshaped by forces far bigger than any single campaign: AI, geopolitical fragmentation, economic pressure, and collapsing agency business models.

In this episode of Frontier CMO, host Josh Spanier sits down with a legend of the advertising world: Sir Martin Sorrell. As an architect of the industry over the last 50 years, Sir Martin shares his unvarnished perspective on where marketing power is shifting now and what CMOs must do to stay relevant.

The conversation breaks down why traditional agency holding companies are struggling, why AI adoption is being driven more by CFOs than CMOs, and where true transformation is already happening at scale.

00:00 – The Power of Branding in a Changing World

01:19 – “Two Drunks and a Lamppost”: On Agency Consolidation

03:34 – What CMOs Can Learn from Ogilvy & the Saatchis

07:42 – Who’s Building the New Marketing Paradigm?

10:13 – Why Agencies Are Falling Behind in the AI Era

13:41 – Why the CFO Is Driving AI Adoption

16:53 – Creativity’s AI Golden Age?

18:45 – The GM Model: AI at Scale in Action

22:43 – The Skills the Next CMO Must Master

28:53 – Is the Long-Term Brand Era Over?

35:00 – Rapid Fire: AI, Agencies & Overcapacity

37:44 – The Most Exciting Market in the World Right Now

In this episode of Frontier CMO, Vineet Mehra, Chief Growth Officer at Chime, joins Josh Spanier to unpack what it takes to lead marketing through the next platform shift. Drawing on a career that spans Procter & Gamble, Johnson & Johnson, and Silicon Valley, Vineet shares how CMOs must evolve from brand managers into capital allocators who drive growth by effectively managing where dollars are deployed. To do this successfully, they must become "balance sheet literate" and learn to speak the "love language" of the CFO—specifically focusing on unit economics, payback periods, and the marginal return on every incremental dollar spent. 

Vineet breaks down how Chime has restructured marketing around AI-enabled teams, in-housed creative and production, and redesigned customer support - turning automation into speed, savings into reinvestment, and execution into a competitive advantage. His thesis: perfect execution is table stakes; growth comes from strategy, taste, and how you design the system.

Whether you’re navigating the pressure of AI adoption, balancing brand with direct response, or trying to stay relevant as automation accelerates, this episode offers a practical framework for building durable growth in a world where leadership, not technology, is the real differentiator.

00:00:00 — CFO + marketing: CAC, payback, unit economics

00:01:00 — Intro: the CMO role is changing

00:02:00 — What marketers must change for the next era

00:04:00 — What stays the same: brand story + taste00:05:30 — In-housing creative with top talent

00:08:00 — AI makes creative faster (from boards to near-finished)

00:10:30 — Biggest benefits: speed, savings, bigger ideas00:12:00 — “Chief Growth Officer” and owning the full funnel

00:15:00 — Full-stack marketer + systems architect

00:19:00 — Using AI agents at Chime (customer support example)00:25:00 — How to build an AI-ready culture

00:29:00 — Advice to traditional companies

00:30:00 — Fun: AI + pizza00:33:00 — Brand vs performance = one system

00:35:00 — Handling end-of-quarter CFO pressure00:38:00 — Signal vs noise + wrap-up takeaways

Marketing is being rebuilt from the infrastructure up. Search is changing. Commerce is becoming agent-driven. Measurement is being redefined in real time. And the line between engineering and marketing is disappearing.

In this episode of Frontier CMO, host Josh Spanier sits down with Vidhya Srinivasan, Head of Ads and Commerce at Google. As the leader responsible for Google Ads, YouTube Ads, Shopping, Merchant Center, Gemini integrations, and payments, Vidhya is helping architect how the modern marketplace actually works.

The conversation explores what “agentic commerce” really means, why the Universal Commerce Protocol could reshape how brands interface with AI systems, and how Gemini is already rewiring performance, creative, and intent matching across the ad stack. Vidhya explains why CMOs don’t need to code — but must become technologically fluent — and outlines a five-part leadership blueprint for navigating AI transformation with optimism, speed, and accountability.

00:00 – The Vision: Reducing the “Commute Cost” from Desire to Purchase

00:28 – Engineering Meets Marketing: Why the Worlds Are Merging

01:31 – Inside Google Ads & Commerce: The Scale of the Role

03:13 – Agentic Commerce & the Universal Commerce Protocol Explained

04:29 – AI Search, Longer Queries & Reimagining Ads

05:05 – YouTube Creators, Culture & the Creator Partnership Hub

06:18 – How Gemini Powers Google’s Ad Systems

07:06 – Why Trust Is the Foundation of AI Advertising

07:51 – What CMOs Must Understand in the AI Era

14:19 – Measurement, First-Party Data & Cracking Attribution

21:38 – Leading AI Transformation: A 5-Point Playbook

25:32 – The Holy Grail: The Right Ad, Right Person, Right Moment