The Centre for Healing Podcast

Fully Awake, Fully Human - With Matt Kay and Susanne Marie

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🎙️ Guest: Susanne Marie | Hosted by Matt

In this rich and insightful episode, Matt is joined by spiritual teacher Susanne Marie for a profound exploration of the integrative path of spiritual awakening. Together, they unpack the evolving journey of awakening—moving through key phases such as:

  • The Emptiness Phase – where identity dissolves into spacious awareness

  • The Unity/Oneness Phase – the realisation of interconnectedness with all life

  • The Embodiment Phase – where transcendence gives way to full inclusion of our humanity

    Rather than bypassing the human experience, Susanne shares how true awakening eventually circles back—inviting us to meet our emotions, stories, and challenges with compassion and presence. The discussion reflects on how non-dual realisation is not the endpoint, but the beginning of an embodied, integrated life.

    This episode is a heartfelt, clear, and nuanced look at the spiritual path beyond the clichés—where the divine and human are no longer at odds, but fully lived as one.

    Topics Covered:

    • Spiritual Awakening & Non-Duality

    • The Illusion of Separation

    • Stages of Realisation

    • Embodiment & Integration

    • Full Circle Awakening

      đź”— Learn more about Susanne Marie: susannemarie.org

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