Fully & Completely: Redux - World Container

Bob Rock, a divisive record, and the Tragically Hip song that might just be their best. jD and Greg came around. Hard.

October 17th, 2006. The Tragically Hip released "World Container" - their first of two records with producer Bob Rock, and one of the most divisive albums in the band's catalog. Twenty years later, jD and Greg LeGros are back for Season 2 of Fully & Completely: Redux, and the verdict is in: this record is better than you remember.

In this episode, jD and Greg dig into the landscape of 2006 - the Wild West of music piracy, the indie pop boom, Arctic Monkeys blowing up on MySpace, and a straight-ahead Canadian rock band trying to stay relevant without chasing a trend. Then they get into the album itself, track by track: the stadium-sized riff of 'You're Not the Ocean', the disco-beat weirdness of 'The Lonely End of the Rink', the complicated love letter that is 'In View', the cool-as-hell swagger of 'Fly', and the title track 'World Container' - which gets called one of the best Tragically Hip songs of all time. No argument here.

Greg also quit coffee. It almost killed him. We talk about that too.

This is Fully & Completely: Redux. Season 2. We're back.

"I missed the boat completely. Because this song is just perfect."

Greg LeGros from Toronto - co-host of Fully & Completely and the person most likely to make you reconsider a record you wrote off. Musician, music obsessive, and the only person jD trusts to go track by track through a Tragically Hip album for hours without losing the thread. This is their reunion after a longer-than-expected break - and it picks up exactly where it left off.

Mentioned or referenced in this episode:

• "World Container" (2006) - The Tragically Hip - produced by Bob Rock
• "Hipeponymous" (2005) - The Tragically Hip box set collection
• A Stranger to Myself: The Inhumanity of War, Russia, 1941-1944 by Willy Peter Reese - referenced in the 'You're Not the Ocean' discussion (Gord Downie connection)
• Hipbase - discography and catalogue reference
• HipMuseum - band history and archival reference

Related episodes:

• Fully & Completely: Redux - In Violet Light
• Fully & Completely: Redux - We Are The Same (up next)

00:00 - Cold Open: October 17th, 2006 01:45 - Intro & Season 2 is back 04:00 - Greg quit coffee (the dark side of a cleanse) 14:30 - The World Container year: 2006 in music and sports 28:00 - Bob Rock: the man, the myth, the Black Album 38:00 - Track by track: 'You're Not the Ocean' 48:30 - 'The Lonely End of the Rink' 57:00 - 'In View' - call your mom 1:06:00 - 'Fly' - Moonbeam, Ontario 1:14:00 - 'Luv (Sic)' and 'Kids Don't Get It' (recording gap at 1:03 - see production note) 1:22:00 - 'Pretend' 1:29:00 - 'Last Night I Dreamed You Didn't Love Me' 1:37:00 - 'The Drop Off' 1:43:00 - 'Family Band' 1:52:00 - 'World Container' - all songs are one song 2:02:00 - Final diagnosis & favourite track picks

Got a take on "World Container"? A song that still hits you different? Drop it in the comments or bring it to the community - we want to hear what you think.

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"World Container" took its time getting its due. Greg wasn't sold. jD wasn't ready. And then - track by track, line by line - it got them both. "All songs are one song and that song is don't forget." That's not just a lyric. For anyone who's been listening to this network for a while, you know exactly what that means.

Next week: jD and Greg keep going. Bob Rock. Season 2. They're not done yet.

• The Tragically Hip On Shuffle - weekly live stream, one random Hip song, real-time community conversation - youtube.com/@tthpods
• Yer Hipstories: Reflections From The Final Tour - the oral history of the Man Machine Poem Tour - coming 2026

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