In this reflective episode, Margaret and David explore the concept of liminality: the space of “no longer and not yet.” It is a profound psychological state that affects us all, whether you are between jobs, recovering from a major life event, or shifting the very identity of your business. As leaders, we are often programmed […]

The phrase “radical acceptance” scares people. We get it—it sounds extreme. It sounds like you’re about to overthrow a government or dye your hair neon green. But when we use the term “radical acceptance,” we choose it intentionally. Margaret and David choose it because true acceptance is a radical act. It goes against our instincts to fight, […]

In this episode of the Leadership Deep Dive, Margaret and David ask a provocative question: “Is Your Life Messy Enough?” Life (and leadership) isn’t meant to be neat, tidy, and perfectly ordered—it’s meant to be lived. We celebrate the chaos, the curveballs, and the unexpected detours that shape who we are.  We dive into stories […]

The term authenticity in leadership gets talked about a lot. In this episode, David and Margaret break it down a bit more. Margaret shared an anecdote about someone who created a plaster mask of their face and painted both sides. Many of us have given some thought to how we think we show up–or the […]

When was the last time you gave yourself permission to retreat? In this thoughtful episode, David and Margaret explore the transformative power of stepping away. During the recording of the podcast, David was mid-way through his own retreat. He took  a few days for himself to travel to the mountains of Colorado (one of his […]

Margaret and David welcome guest Graeme Watt, a principal at Anthem Creative, to discuss the “Great Collision” of tech and traditionally late adopters in the nonprofit sector. Graeme’s career has straddled both nonprofit and for-profit work — and has kept a close eye on the adoption of technology — or lack thereof — that may […]

What is the impact of ignoring versus naming the elephant in the room? Margaret reported that she had hoped to feel energized and rested after the 3-day Labor Day weekend. But thanks to a run-in with a (metaphoric) elephant, that’s not what happened. In this episode, David and Margaret share how those elephants — in […]

Summer’s Over … David and Margaret explored the dynamics of heading back-to-school — including the anxiety. They noticed that the parents they have had contact with seem to sometimes experience more anxiety than their children at the prospect of school starting up again, even as the children’s transition back to school is often smooth. And […]

547 Requests for Juice: Annoying or Funny? Margaret and David discussed the importance of finding gifts and opportunities in difficult circumstances. The topic for this podcast came from a post Margaret wrote for LinkedIn. The story was about her then-toddler son’s persistent request for juice that felt quite trying at the time, but ultimately became […]

David and Margaret  do a take on a line from A Few Good Men, substituting “Love” for “Truth” … as in “You Can’t Handle the Love.” The hosts are always looking for ways to learn from their own personal and spiritual journeys — and apply it to being great leaders.  David is reading author David […]