#126 – Just Jack and Kate this week, on a special episode of Downers. Whether it's depression, anxiety, or a general funk, we all get experience emotional valleys (or maybe craters) from time to time. We devote the hour to the actual topic of SADNESS on our sadness podcast. All that, and more, on Downers!

(Hao's graphics card broke so he's writing this without having listened to the episode. I will update this copy as soon as I listen to it on my phone!)