Garage Grit Podcast

Garage Grit Podcast

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Garage Grit Podcast episodes

  • “Everything before 1998 is ‘classic.’ After that, it’s ‘modern.’” — Tyson Fisher | GGP #040

    Mercedes specialist Tyson Fisher breaks down how a 42-year family shop in Gainesville, FL thrives by niching hard, running in-house systems, and obsessing over quality and retention. Shop owners will hear practical ways to tighten invoicing, plan tools/training, and win profitable fleet and Sprinter work.

    Guests:
    Tyson Fisher — Star Import Service — Gainesville, FL

    What you’ll learn (shop-owner takeaways):
    Niche deep: Mercedes & Sprinter focus wins
    Classic vs. modern: how Tyson splits workflow
    Why in-house shop software beats cloud risk
    Invoice design customers actually understand
    Fleet playbook: schedule, pre-approve, deliver fast
    SEO targeting by slang + geography filters
    Quality control using the 4 C’s framework
    When to outsource ADAS calibration profitably

    Timestamps
    00:00 – Classic vs modern Mercedes cutoff
    00:47 – Welcome to Origin & Impact
    01:45 – Star Import Service since 1984
    03:05 – Smart cars under the Mercedes umbrella
    04:10 – Classics vs modern mix of work
    05:40 – Paper manuals that still earn their keep
    07:35 – Why older info dries up online
    09:06 – Rare 1971 case: book on the fender
    10:10 – How far customers travel for niche work
    11:15 – South Georgia and Jacksonville pipeline
    12:35 – Fleet vs RV Sprinter customers
    14:10 – From DOS to modern in-house software
    16:05 – CDK outage lesson: avoid cloud dependency
    17:45 – Make invoices simple, readable, complete
    20:05 – Recommendations, estimates, fast approvals
    21:42 – WinWorks setup and backup approach
    23:00 – Minimal CRM; audits for anomalies
    24:55 – Tying bonuses to comebacks
    26:35 – Seven-year paper record discipline
    27:28 – How customers actually find them (SEO)
    29:50 – Geo-targeting and keyword strategy
    31:35 – Google Ads that reinforce organic
    32:58 – Revenue beyond repairs: what’s worth it
    34:30 – EV pullback; invest in ICE tools
    36:25 – ADAS: when to keep or sublet
    38:02 – 2020 shock and cash decisions
    41:00 – Shop environment and tech comfort
    43:00 – From near-bankrupt to rebuilt systems
    49:06 – PPP timing and hard choices
    52:07 – Tools, training, and shifting plans
    54:22 – Floor plan for future vehicle sales
    55:38 – Reading the cycle and unit economics
    57:54 – Programming modules and TRP reality
    59:33 – Retention above 98% and why
    1:00:42 – Meeting cadence and what matters
    1:02:20 – The 4 C’s: Concern, Condition, Correction, Confirm
    1:05:42 – Wrap and future panel invites

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    1 hr 12 min
  • “We fix what actually needs to be done” — Alan & Shanley Austin | GGP #039

    A family-run collision & mechanical shop shares a trust-first playbook: transparent inspections, pushing back on insurers, and SOPs that keep quality high and customers loyal. Real tactics you can use tomorrow—without upselling games.


    Guests:
    Alan Austin — Austin Spencer Collision — Henrietta, NY
    Shanley Austin — Austin Spencer Collision — Henrietta, NY


    What you’ll learn (shop-owner takeaways):

    • Build trust by fixing only what’s essential

    • How to advocate for customers vs insurers

    • Handling total-loss offers and salvage titles

    • Turn $21 inspections into lifetime customers

    • Train service writers to read each customer

    • Write SOPs your team will actually follow

    • Use CCC + ALLDATA together effectively

    • Recruit techs through local trade pipelines


    Timestamps
    00:00 – Intro and episode setup
    01:30 – Alan’s origin story and first shop
    03:30 – Expanding bays and multiple locations
    05:00 – Rochester market and competition
    07:00 – Family experience vs big DRP shops
    10:30 – Fighting for customers on insurance
    12:20 – Totaled? Research value and negotiate
    17:20 – Trust over upsells on repairs
    19:10 – NYS inspection pricing and strategy
    23:00 – Red, yellow, green philosophy on work
    24:20 – Who talks to customers day to day
    27:30 – Hire for personality, train the rest
    32:00 – Ditching paper: notes and workflows
    36:40 – CCC + ALLDATA and estimate accuracy
    41:00 – Salarying a body tech and accountability
    44:20 – SOPs that save time (3M book, Notion)
    49:10 – Video vs PDF for training retention
    55:00 – Recruiting: WEMOCO, Alfred State, LinkedIn
    59:50 – Word of mouth and social media plans
    01:04:10 – AI predefined notes for estimates
    01:08:40 – Growth mindset vs maintaining
    01:13:40 – Wrap


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    1 hr 15 min
  • “Dual pricing isn’t the same as surcharging” — Rob Davis & David Nacion | GGP #038

    Credit card fees are eating into shop profits, but how you pass them on makes all the difference. In this episode, Rob Davis and David Nacion explain the rules, risks, and real-world options for surcharging, dual pricing, and cash discounting in auto repair shops.

    Guests:
    Rob Davis — CardConnect / Fiserv — Philadelphia, PA
    David Nacion — CardConnect / Fiserv — Philadelphia, PA

    What you’ll learn (shop-owner takeaways):

    • Difference between surcharging and dual pricing

    • Why dual pricing covers debit cards too

    • Legal limits on surcharges and compliance risks

    • How cash discounting works in practice

    • Best way to present pricing to customers

    • Options for ACH, Zelle, and alternative payments

    • Chargeback risks with cards vs. ACH vs. cash

    • How customer age and ARO affect pushback

    Timestamps
    00:00 – Intro: Credit card fees in shops
    02:21 – Surcharging vs dual pricing
    03:41 – State rules and compliance
    05:56 – How to analyze your fees
    07:07 – When surcharging becomes risky
    08:48 – Debit cards, rewards cards, compliance
    10:14 – Can rates flex by card type?
    12:18 – Defining true cash discounting
    13:43 – ACH, Zelle, and new payment options
    16:48 – Checks, ACH, and instant clearance
    18:09 – Zelle adoption across banks
    19:14 – Rob & David’s teamwork approach
    22:33 – Surcharging rules and caps explained
    24:34 – What dual pricing really means
    26:18 – Why Visa dislikes added fees
    29:57 – How software presents dual pricing
    33:17 – Effective rate vs processor markup
    35:06 – Fluctuating interchange rates
    36:45 – Customer experience and fairness
    39:15 – Pandemic shift in payment habits
    42:21 – Zelle, QR codes, and easy options
    43:49 – Generational differences on fees
    47:16 – Customer age and ARO insights
    49:05 – Post-COVID normalization of fees
    50:55 – 67% adoption across industries
    52:04 – Why fees keep climbing
    54:48 – State restrictions and compliance
    55:11 – Customer complaints and adoption rates
    57:04 – Transparency in invoicing
    59:40 – Cash vs ACH vs Zelle chargebacks
    01:02:10 – Wrapping up and next steps

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    Links
    Listen on Spotify: https://creators.spotify.com/pod/profile/garagegrit
    Join the Facebook group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/forautorepairshopowners/
    Learn more: https://aashopmarketing.com
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    Partnership Info: https://www.aashopmarketing.com/aashopmktg/public/partnership.aspx


    1 hr 6 min
  • Dual Pricing • Shop Fees • Customer Trust — Cannata, Millevoi & Sapuppo | GGP #037

    Credit card fees are eating into shop profits, but how you handle them can make or break customer trust. In this panel, three operators compare dual pricing, bundling fees, and simply raising rates. They dig into state-by-state rules, POS limitations, and where transparency matters most. You’ll hear what actually triggers pushback and what keeps customers happy.


    Lou Cannata explains why he’s tracking card costs to the penny before changing policy. His shop averages roughly $15.26 per card transaction and about 2.2% in processing fees, which reframes the problem at the RO level. He’s watching dealers and collision centers in his market adopt 3% while weighing timing and perception. The goal is simple: protect margin without damaging first and last impressions.


    Kevin Millevoi lays out the customer-experience case against tacking on a fee at the end. He folds hazmat and supplies into upfront pricing so the total never “surprises” a customer at pickup. To him, adding a surcharge can feel like insult after an unexpected repair. He’d rather quote the real number once and deliver fast, clean communication throughout.


    From Denver, Mitchell Sapuppo shares why his shop includes processing in a “total fees” line instead of a separate surcharge. He sees a clear age split: older customers bring cash more often, younger customers just want the car fixed and don’t fuss over fees when they’ve approved the estimate. The thread across all three shops is communication before authorization, not a surprise fee after the work. The right framing reduces friction and keeps approvals moving.


    If you’re deciding whether to implement dual pricing, start with your numbers. Know true card costs per RO, your ARO, and your competitive labor rate band. Consider fee caps, shop-fee structure, and parts/labor mix before flipping a surcharge switch. And check your state’s invoicing rules—line items vs. bundled fees—so your POS matches what’s legal and clear.


    Guests:Lou Cannata — Lou’s Car Care and Fleet ServicesKevin Millevoi — Millevoi’s Tire and Automotive — Bensalem, PennsylvaniaMitchell Sapuppo — Maple Garage — Denver, Colorado


    What you’ll learn (shop-owner takeaways):Calculate true processing cost per ROFrame fees up front to avoid surprisesBundle vs line-item: pros and consState rules that affect surchargingSet shop fees with clear capsAdjust labor/parts to offset feesWhen dual pricing helps or hurtsKnow your market, ARO, and crowd


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    Disclaimer

    The views and practices discussed in this episode are shared experiences from independent shop owners. Credit card surcharges, dual pricing, and shop fee structures are subject to state and federal regulations that vary by location. This conversation is not legal or financial advice. Before implementing any fee strategy in your shop, consult with your merchant processor, point-of-sale provider, accountant, or legal counsel to ensure compliance with all applicable laws.

    1 hr 4 min
  • “Customers don’t trust shops—they trust people” — Max Blatt | GGP #036

    Fourth-generation owner Max Blatt of Blatt Tire and Automotive shares how he took over the family shop in Center City Philadelphia, modernized operations, and is plotting new ventures like mobile tire service—all while balancing customer trust, employee loyalty, and his dad’s legacy.

    Guests:
    Max Blatt — Blatt Tire and Automotive — Philadelphia, PA

    What you’ll learn (shop-owner takeaways):

    • Balancing tires vs. repair revenue streams

    • Why speed + inventory win in the city

    • Mobile tire service business model and margins

    • Managing legacy employees and loyalty

    • Transitioning from paper to AutoLeap software

    • How reviews build (or erode) trust

    • Using murals and history in marketing

    • Cash vs. card fee debates in 2025

    Timestamps
    00:00 – Intro & Philly roots
    01:10 – Shop history & 4th generation story
    02:30 – Dad retires but still calls daily
    04:00 – Tire vs. repair split explained
    05:20 – Why mobile tire service is next
    07:00 – Customer conflict story in Philly
    09:00 – “Blackmobile” idea for mobile tires
    11:15 – Parallels with Netflix’s Tires show
    15:00 – Transitioning from paper to digital
    16:30 – Struggles with DVIs and AutoLeap
    19:00 – Managing techs: results vs micromanage
    21:00 – 50+ year employee loyalty stories
    22:20 – Building customer trust over decades
    23:30 – Review battles & fake 1-stars
    27:30 – Vetting coaches by calling shops
    30:00 – ROI fears: coaching vs marketing
    32:00 – Fixing outdated websites & SEO
    34:00 – Philly mural as hero image
    38:00 – Coffee shop side hustle idea
    40:30 – Taking over after medical emergency
    42:00 – Learning by doing: tires, counter, delivery
    43:30 – Plans for DVIs & customer education
    44:30 – Competitors in Center City footprint
    46:00 – Customer logistics: Uber, waiting, rides
    48:00 – Could concierge Uber service work?
    49:30 – Shop pride, murals, and trust
    53:00 – How GGP episodes help shop owners
    56:00 – Credit card fee debate
    58:00 – Cashless vs cash discounts
    1:00:00 – Wrap & sponsor message

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    Links
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    Learn more: https://aashopmarketing.com

    Keywords
    auto repair shop growth, Philadelphia tire shop, mobile tire service, hiring technicians, employee loyalty, DVI best practices, AutoLeap software, customer trust, online reviews for shops, shop marketing, shop murals, family succession, cash vs card fees, credit card surcharges, Google reviews management, fleet tire accounts, shop operations Philadelphia, small business marketing auto repair, fourth generation shop owner, customer concierge ideas

    1 hr 3 min
  • “DVI is the best thing since front pockets” — Mike Scaglione | GGP #035

    From service stations with gas pumps to today’s DVIs, Mike Scaglione of Kempsville Auto Care Center shares 45 years of lessons on running a shop, leading in Virginia, and why he believes inspections and charging what you’re worth matter more than ever.


    Guests:

    Mike Scaglione — Kempsville Auto Care Center — Virginia Beach, VA


    What you’ll learn (shop-owner takeaways):


    How service stations evolved into modern shops


    Why DVIs boost sales and protect your shop


    State inspections: burden or business builder?


    Balancing customer trust with photo/video evidence


    Local zoning battles and expansion challenges


    VAA membership benefits for shop owners


    Passing credit card fees vs. absorbing costs


    Work-life balance and importance of date night


    Timestamps

    00:00 – Mike’s shop intro

    01:07 – From service stations to food shops

    02:55 – Early manuals and time guides

    05:30 – Internet replaces phone books

    07:39 – Math errors cost real money

    09:36 – Why DVIs matter

    12:39 – Handling customers with photos/videos

    14:01 – Trust vs. oversharing inspections

    15:00 – Cars visit shops less often now

    16:45 – Work-life balance in the early years

    19:14 – Using DVIs for comebacks

    20:49 – State inspections in VA and PA

    23:54 – Should more states require inspections?

    25:52 – Inspection costs and politics

    28:03 – Is it worth keeping inspections?

    29:57 – Safety and liability on the road

    32:00 – Rising ownership costs with ADAS

    32:48 – Autonomous cars in the future

    35:39 – Freedom, rural vs metro pushback

    40:07 – Why service stations still exist

    41:36 – Local zoning and shop expansion

    44:05 – Elections and zoning impact

    47:11 – Environmental rules: runoff ponds

    48:06 – Recycling water and gray water use

    49:55 – Virginia Automotive Association (VAA)

    52:12 – $350 membership pays for itself

    54:37 – Today’s time crunch for shop owners

    56:40 – Relying on your team

    58:02 – DoorDash now delivers parts

    01:01:08 – Family life vs. shop chaos

    01:05:36 – Charging credit card fees

    01:08:50 – Marketing cash discounts

    01:12:54 – Fishing after hurricanes

    01:15:50 – Offshore windmill farms debate

    01:20:00 – Final lessons on saving and balance

    01:23:52 – Upcoming VAA meet and greets

    01:24:36 – Ongoing training and events

    01:26:32 – Closing reflections

    01:28:40 – Wrap


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    Links

    Listen on Spotify: https://creators.spotify.com/pod/profile/garagegrit


    Join the Facebook group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/forautorepairshopowners/


    Learn more: https://aashopmarketing.com

    1 hr 26 min
  • “Dealership alternative? Not without loaners.” — Laura Tierney | GGP #034

    Loaner cars aren’t a “nice-to-have”—they’re a sales tool that closes RO’s, reduces chaos at the counter, and lets independents compete with dealerships. Laura Tierney from Shop Loaner breaks down how to do it safely and profitably.


    Guests:
    Laura Tierney — Shop Loaner

    What you’ll learn (shop-owner takeaways):

    Why loaners close higher-dollar repair orders
    How to structure a separate rental LLC
    Insurance basics and driver-first liability
    What your legal agreement must include
    When to lease vs. repurpose lot vehicles
    Fleet sizing math: 2 cars per active bay
    Tablet/text workflows that speed handoffs
    Policies that prevent horror-story abuse


    Timestamps:
    00:00 – Why loaners matter now
    02:05 – Laura’s origin story
    03:44 – From dealerships to independents
    05:18 – COVID shift to virtual forms
    07:10 – Two brands, same core tools
    08:32 – Software + service explained
    09:06 – State rules and liability basics
    10:40 – GPS language and terms
    12:18 – Separate LLC to protect assets
    14:05 – Vehicle condition and expectations
    15:42 – Repurpose customer turn-ins
    17:22 – Courtesy vs. paid rental standards
    18:58 – The #1 reason shops add loaners
    20:06 – Compete with “dealership alternative”
    21:22 – Insurance set-up the right way
    22:56 – What every agreement must capture
    25:05 – Photos, walkarounds, credit cards
    26:32 – Real-world horror stories
    29:02 – Do-Not-Rent list controls
    31:20 – Cost mindset vs. growth mindset
    33:18 – How many cars to start with
    35:28 – Revenue lift example (Euro shop)
    39:36 – Shuttle risk vs. clean process
    42:10 – Valet pickup/delivery workflow
    44:12 – Clear next steps and contact
    45:40 – Where to reach Laura
    46:30 – Wrap


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    Listen on Spotify: https://creators.spotify.com/pod/profile/garagegrit

    Join the Facebook group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/forautorepairshopowners/

    Learn more: https://aashopmarketing.com

    Learn more: https://www.shoploaner.com/


    47 min
  • “Growth Without Systems Will Break Your Shop” | Philip Korbel & Brian Teberg | GGP #033

    How do you scale a six-bay shop without burning out your team—or your customers? Elite Automotive Center’s co-owners share how they’re growing the right way: fill capacity first, lock in systems, and win with relationships (not transactions).

    Guests:
    Philip Korbel & Brian Teberg — Co-owners, Elite Automotive Center — Fargo, North Dakota

    What you’ll learn (shop-owner takeaways):

    • Why an owner shortage (culture/leadership) beats a “tech shortage” narrative

    • Car-count math: 260–280/month now, ~360 before adding bays

    • Building a high-school pipeline (career academies, toolbox help, real training)

    • Relationship selling: remembering pets & trips > being “transactional”

    • DVIs with transparency + ride-alongs for “can’t duplicate” noises

    • Customer experience that lowers anxiety (hotel-lobby vibes, kid-friendly perks)

    • Training cadence (NAPA/O’Reilly + TechFix) and paying techs to attend

    • Hiring/firing: 2-stage interviews, red flags, acting faster

    • Tech stack realities: Mitchell pros/cons, online scheduling, OctoRocket, texting

    • Fleet growth via speed, quality, fair pricing—and referrals

    • Coaching, tribes, and how local politics/zoning impact expansion

    00:00 – Intro, FB group, Aug ’25 panel
    01:29 – Fargo market & rural pull
    02:25 – State line rules (ND/MN)
    03:45 – Shop size (6 bays)
    04:43 – Grow after capacity
    06:21 – Car count goals
    07:32 – High-school hire
    08:13 – “Owner shortage” quote
    11:11 – Career Academy pipeline
    13:11 – Student tech training
    14:34 – Meet Andrea (advisor)
    16:02 – Relationships > transactions
    18:14 – Pre-trip DVIs
    19:13 – Comm preferences
    19:58 – Calming waiting room
    20:30 – Comfort touches
    21:57 – Family-friendly perks
    23:31 – DVIs + ride-alongs
    24:17 – Ongoing training
    25:45 – Reviews & paid training
    27:17 – Origin story (2013)
    29:32 – Forced move
    30:57 – New building → COVID
    31:34 – Why Philip co-owner
    35:39 – Division of labor
    36:56 – Hiring funnel
    37:27 – Firing lessons
    43:49 – Competitors nearby
    45:12 – Grow the pie
    46:27 – DVI video tradeoffs
    50:11 – Parts matrix wishlist
    51:31 – ShopGenie & Kikui
    52:49 – Online requests
    54:07 – Phones & OctoRocket
    55:52 – Digital Concierge option
    56:12 – Fleet growth drivers
    57:40 – Brian’s path
    59:30 – Coaching & conferences
    1:01:14 – Shop tours cadence
    1:02:07 – Tribe accountability
    1:06:23 – Local politics & permits
    1:09:24 – Future panel topics
    1:11:10 – Rides vs. loaners
    1:11:49 – Wrap-up

    • Questions for Philip & Brian? Comment below or post in the FB group—they’ll jump in.

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    auto repair shop growth, auto repair business management, hiring technicians, technician shortage solutions, shop owner culture, DVI best practices, customer experience auto repair, service advisor training, fleet accounts strategy, parts matrix pricing, Mitchell shop management, online scheduler auto repair, ShopFix coaching, car count goals, ride-along diagnostics, small business hiring and firing, recruiting from high schools, Fargo Moorhead auto repair, North Dakota auto repair, auto repair marketing

    1 hr 14 min
  • #032 Building Legacy: Succession Planning for Auto Repair Shops

    In this episode of the Garage Grit Podcast, host Brad Hurlock of AA Shop Marketing is joined by Mike from Grinnell Firestone, Steve Finzel of Finzels Master Tech, and Kelly and Lee Weatherby from Mesa, Arizona to discuss succession planning for automotive repair shops. The panel shares insights into transitioning business ownership, dealing with unexpected changes, and the importance of written procedures and systems. They delve into the challenges and strategies around training, customer service, managing employee expectations, and setting up a business for sale. Additionally, the podcast highlights the key elements to focus on when preparing for succession, such as creating operational procedures, understanding your role, and making the business attractive to buyers. The conversation is a blend of personal anecdotes, professional advice, and practical steps for shop owners looking to plan for the future.


    00:00 Introduction and Passion for the Job

    00:33 Customer Service and Business Philosophy

    00:58 Welcome to the Garage Grit Podcast

    01:40 Introducing the Guests

    01:49 Mike's Journey and Business Evolution

    03:24 Steve's Business Transformation

    04:03 Kelly and Lee's Retirement Transition

    05:11 Challenges and Strategies in Succession Planning

    10:51 Private Equity and Business Valuation

    15:11 Employee Involvement and Ownership

    18:10 Reflections on Family Business and Future Plans

    30:51 Advice for Skeptics and Final Thoughts

    33:53 Key Player Involvement and Ownership Phases

    34:07 Dealing with Skepticism and Plan B

    34:34 Creating a Detailed Succession Plan

    35:15 Preparing Your Business for Sale

    36:24 The Importance of Organizational Structure

    37:41 Adapting and Evolving Business Plans

    41:14 Training and Documentation Strategies

    44:41 The Role of a Utility Player

    47:55 Customer Service and Business Continuity

    52:22 Steps to Effective Succession Planning

    01:00:16 The Value of Peer Review and Coaching

    01:03:44 Addressing Technician Shortages and Leadership

    01:04:59 Future Podcast Topics and Closing Remarks

    1 hr 9 min
  • “The 3 Jobs of a Shop Owner” – Kevin Bird of JM Auto Service | GGP #031

    "The Three Jobs of a Shop Owner Are Marketing, Hiring, and Training" – Kevin Bird of JM Auto Service | Trust, Team Culture & Coaching
    Kevin Bird of JM Auto Service in Eveleth, Minnesota, breaks down the three jobs every shop owner must master—marketing, hiring, and training—while sharing how he built customer trust, shaped team culture, and embraced coaching to grow his shop.


    I’m Brad Hurlock, host of the Garage Grit Podcast and founder of AA Shop Marketing. In this Origin & Impact episode, I sit down with Kevin Bird of JM Auto Service in Eveleth, Minnesota.

    Kevin shares the story of taking over a long-standing repair shop, the lessons he learned from corporate life, and how he’s applied them to running a 12-bay operation in a small northern town. He talks about the realities of earning customer trust, creating a culture where his team thrives, and why investing in coaching groups has helped him level up as an owner.

    At the heart of this conversation, Kevin lays out a simple but powerful truth: the three jobs of a shop owner are marketing, hiring, and training. If you’re an independent shop owner, this episode will challenge you to refocus on what really drives growth and long-term success.

    Listen anywhere: https://creators.spotify.com/pod/profile/garagegrit
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    Timestamps:
    00:00 – Introduction and Kevin’s background
    01:35 – Overview of JM Auto Service and serving a rural community
    06:30 – Balancing longtime customers with new ones
    12:00 – Shop management, TechMetric, and building trust with customers
    17:00 – Transitioning from previous ownership and shop culture changes
    23:00 – Team dynamics, daily meetings, and culture outside of work
    28:40 – Kevin’s path into shop ownership and lessons from corporate life
    32:30 – Hiring strategies and building the right team
    38:40 – The three jobs of a shop owner: marketing, hiring, training
    44:40 – Marketing lessons, mailers, reviews, and Google visibility
    52:00 – Training processes for techs and service advisors
    57:30 – Moving from growth to consistency
    1:01:00 – Loaner car program and liability setup
    1:08:00 – Coaching groups, ShopFix, and the value of a tribe
    1:12:30 – Closing thoughts and invitation to the Garage Grit community

    1 hr 14 min

About Garage Grit Podcast

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Welcome to the Garage Grit Podcast, hosted by Brad Hurlock from AA Shop Marketing. Join us as we tackle common stress points in the auto repair shop space, uniting owners for insightful conversations.…