California Governor Gavin Newsom sits down with Isaac in downtown Los Angeles—just blocks from the ICE detention center at the center of recent protests—to discuss the immigration raids in and around the city and what he views as executive overreach by the Trump administration. Governor Newsom opens up about what’s really happening behind the scenes, the human cost of ICE tactics directed by the administration, and why he believes California is ground zero for the country’s future. He also shares what Democrats need to do differently, what Republicans are saying behind closed doors, and why he continues to engage with people who don’t agree with him—including Trump himself.