The girls and gays review Pillion, a film about a directionless man who is swept off his feet when an enigmatic, impossibly handsome biker takes him on as his submissive. It's GAY gay.

The crew talks a little bit too much about "painting," (not the kind you'd think). Justin struggles to say the word "enigmatic." Will denies claims that he is drinking a glass of wine with an umbrella straw while recording the pod. Kobe talks about the current state of being gay. And Kait keeps us all on track. We get a little wild on this one. Tune in now!

The girls and gays discuss "The Moment," a new film from Charli xcx and Aidan Zamiri about a rising pop star navigating the complexities of fame and industry pressure while preparing for her arena tour debut.