We all know Open Source projects don't play by the same rules as commercial projects, but when a distro fails miserably to meet a goal, does the project suffer? Does Open Source in general suffer? Does anyone really care?

Indulging in a bit of a thought experiment, the guys discuss what the future would look like for Linux if "Free as in beer" were no longer a valid argument.

The guys discuss the tech news of the week, with their usual musings on patent law, market trends, and of course bacon.

Taking a break from all things Linux, Mark shares the results of several months worth of experimentation on how to make the best coffee in the world.

The guys are joined (in a manner of speaking) by the developer of SalentOS to learn a bit more about this distro.

The guys take a our through some recent tech news and Seth gives his first impressions of SalentOS