In this conversation, Kenny Markwardt, Jonathan Riley, and Trevor Riley explore their journey into combat sports, particularly focusing on Jiu-Jitsu and its applications in self-defense and cage fighting. They discuss the misconceptions surrounding martial arts, the importance of control and technique over brute strength, and the distinction between being a fighter and a martial artist. The conversation emphasizes the supportive nature of training environments and the lifelong benefits of adopting a martial artist's mindset. In this conversation, Kenny Markwardt, Jonathan Riley, and Trevor Riley discuss the importance of self-competition, the journey of martial arts training, and the lessons learned from both victories and losses. They emphasize the significance of resilience, the value of a supportive training environment, and the long-term commitment required in martial arts and fitness. The discussion also touches on the realities of cage fighting and the mental preparation needed for such experiences.