John, the basket case, is worried this morning about not being on the air, so he and Gordy search for distraction in the National Day Calendar. We also check in with Sam for Today in History, then welcome on Dr. Tim Slekar, one half of the BustED Pencils team. Today's discussion centers on not just blindly endorsing public education, but instead critiquing it to make it better. Tim explains the goal of educating kids, rather than schooling them, and how there are systems in place to actually make that harder. Wrapping up hour one, the discussion with Tim shifts to news in AI with education - AI tutors.

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