Today we talked to the Death Traitor himself Alex Heir founder and designer of the Punk Rock clothing line and Singer for the band L.O.T.I.O.N. a New York punk that does what punks do best, use their DIY skills to create rad shit. We talked a lot about his Art, how he creates and of course how to be an aging punk in this world and what's important to remember The Kids know whats up. it was a great talkFollow Alex @https://www.deathtraitors.com/https://lotionmultinationalcorporation.bandcamp.com/album/alphabrainFollow us @ linktr.ee/GetheavypodEnjoy,Craig and Jon