Tonight I had the pleasure of talking to an old friend Chris Owens Singer and guitar play for the Louisville band LORDS in the early 2000's they changed the game on what i thought was possible for intensity and pure song writing chaos. He Low key inspired me to start my band The Fucking Wrath. He has since been living in LA for the last 10+years building hi end recording studios for just about everyone you can think. We talked about the weight of Punk Rock Guilt and how it allows you to stay in the trenches but when you can shed it, You can use that knowledge to go far. It was a great conversation.If you have never heard of LORDS please check them out and follow all things Chris Owens @https://www.facebook.com/thechrisowenshttps://open.spotify.com/artist/6CkFzf8dKjk4mqLmU8yjn8?si=9PoGLj8zRBGxZEwMgVRJ0gEmail us at: [email protected] to audio on all major Podcast formats.please rate and review.Follow All things Get Heavy@https://linktr.ee/GetheavypodEnjoy, Craig