Today we talked to our Friend Dale Dreiling a Ventura staple and artist of all mediums. we talked about his push for Bernie and absolute disappointment it was to watch him get stepped over twice in the election we talked about how covid has changed his out look on what happening in the world and more importantly we talked Art why he creates and how to keep finding joy while creating.Follow all things Dale @ https://www.instagram.com/daledreiling/Email us at: [email protected] to audio on all major Podcast formats.please rate and review.Watch us @ https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCo8wwIF25p2miEG2neoUv2w/Follow All things Get Heavy @ https://linktr.ee/GetheavypodPlease enjoyCraig, Jon