Hey folks! Kliph Nesteroff is our guest this week. Kliph has done campus radio, worked for the CBC, been a stand-up comedian, and even published a remarkable blog about comedy history.

Kliph was born in B.C. (where I first met him) but now lives in L.A. His first book, The Comedians: Drunks, Thieves, Scoundrels and the History of American Comedy, has done exceptionally well and is a fabulous read. So is his latest, We Had A Little Real Estate Problem: The Unheralded Story of Native Americans and Comedy.

As a white settler, Kliph isn't super keen on speaking for indigenous folks. In the book he handles this extremely well, but on the publicity circuit, he hasn't always been comfortable. To that end, I've included a second interview with comedian Jon Roberts, who appears in the book. We talk about his career, Kliph's book, and more. Hope you enjoy!