Seriously, folks.

This episode marks the fifth anniversary of GET LIT.

I never thought when I started (first broadcast Nov 24 2016, with Gary Barwin) that I'd keeping doing it this long. Reading this much is a lot of work but it's work I've been happy to do. I appreciate everyone who's been along for this - listeners, authors, publicists, supporters. Another five? I don't know, but I also don't see an end in sight at this time.

Today's guest is Stephen Dale, here to talk about his latest non-fiction book Shift Change: Scenes from a Post-Industrial Revolution. Tune in!