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You have stumbled onto another episode of Get Your FILL, the podcast where we explore the path to financial independence and long life. Listen to the intro episode for a full explanation of the format & the backstory but basically we’re working our way throughout a week of content with a theme for each day.

MIM: Okay, let’s move it – right now, stand up, put your arms by your side and shrug your shoulders – like you’re saying ‘I don’t know’. Do that a couple of times. Now bring your shoulders toward each other in the front and let your hands move toward each other, then circle them back up, then to the back and try to touch your shoulder blades together, then down and make that down an active pushing down of your shoulders toward the floor and feel that nice release of tension. Then reverse it, start pushing down to back with your shoulder blades together and up shoulders toward your ears to the front. Doesn’t that feel great? The whole time that you’re doing this, try to look straight ahead. I notice when I do this that my head wants to go back. I don’t think that’s ideal. If you’re not sure what I’m talking about, check out the video. There’s a link on the website, GetYourFILLpodcast.com then you can see it graphically and you don’t have to use your imagination.

TAGRT: In the intro to Napoleon Hill’s book, Think & Grow Rich, he talks about Edwin C Barnes who thought his way into a partnership with Thomas Edison. Picture this young guy who’s been hearing about Thomas Edison and reading about him and who has created in his mind a burning desire to work with this man and be his business partner. It would be like if I decided that I wanted to learn investing from Warren Buffet. He didn’t know Edison and couldn’t afford to buy the train ticket to see him. Did that stop him? No way. He traveled by blind baggage. I don’t think that’s a thing anymore but basically he took a freight train and traveled in a boxcar like you see in the movies. Napoleon Hill tells this story because Edwin Barnes used the 13 steps to riches to achieve his goal of becoming a business partner of Thomas Edison. He had a burning desire, he was persistent, he saw none of the obstacles that you or I may have seen. He just pointed himself toward his goal and kept going until he achieved it.

WAIW: Where are you today? How are you tracking to your goals? Have you set goals? If you don’t know where you’re going, any road will take you there. If you can’t figure out what you want, at least figure out what you don’t want and work backward. I know that I don’t want to be a penniless, homeless beggar living on the streets so I can set a goal to be able to afford a comfortable place to live and enough to eat and go from there. You want to set goals for your health, your relationships, etc.

I’m doing okay. After this, I have to finish one more podcast episode before I can get them over to iTunes to launch. I’ve got my great astrologer friend, Sandra Knight, working on the most auspicious day for the launch so that’s all very exciting. I’m in Denver writing this to attend the National Speakers Association Influence convention. It starts tonight so I’m looking forward to connecting with friends old and new, to seeing my mastermind group in person, to learning more about how to become an effective speaker, which is my goal for 2020. All good stuff happening.

TYT: Who or what has had a positive impact on you this week? Let’s take a minute to send a gratitude-thought-wave message. Keep it going until you feel your heart swell w

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We are so lucky today, we have Lisa Jeffery joining us. She is the host of Real Estate Talk with Lisa, which is on WBGR Network every Thursday from 2:30 to 3:30 ET, and she also streams that on her Facebook channel, so you can subscribe and get notified whenever she’s coming on. She is so knowledgeable about real estate and very committed to helping people get involved in real estate and become investors so that they can build some wealth.

Chris: Lisa, thanks so much for joining us today. How long have you been doing your video show, your Facebook Live?

Lisa: We started in 2017 is when I started, I really was not, I was not looking for that because for me, I’m thinking – I’m really not the info-mercial kind of girl. I’d much rather talk about other people, I don’t know who is gonna wanna listen to me talk about real estate for an hour. I don’t even wanna listen to me talk about real estate for an hour. There’s not enough real estate stuff to talk about for an hour.

But you know I’m a woman of faith, and so I prayed about it, I said “Okay God, this is what you want. I’m gonna say yes to it and we’ll just figure it out. So I went upstairs, and we talked in the studio, so I signed a little thing and said, Okay, I’m gonna do it then I thought, okay, what’s next? So, what I envisioned, though, was a show that really focused on the audience, on what the audience was looking for on the front end of the show. So our theme is Opening the Door with Keys of Independence. And so we look to educate, empower and motivate our audience to action in whatever area of real estate that they’re interested in.

So that’s what we do. And so, that’s our focus. So I interview lenders, we talk about grant programs, ways to finance, we talk about rehab financing. If you’re having trouble finding something that’s already done, how you can use that type of financing to get something that may not be gorgeous as one of our lenders says: ‘Not the shiny penny’ but something that you can make your own. We talk about things like, okay, let’s say you don’t want to be in a bidding war – which is kind of hard to avoid in certain areas – how you can look at new construction as a way to avoid that. So I’m looking to present for first-time homebuyers, we give insights about how the process works. We talk about contractors and home inspection, home warranties, some of the fears that buyers may have that will keep them from moving forward as well as concerns that sellers have in terms of when they’re gonna list their property. So, just as I continue to go forward, I saw that there was just a plethora of topics within the real estate industry: how you can be a building owner, commercial real estate.

And we talk a lot about community on our show, we have a segment called Rescue Resources and what we do there is different – like food pantries in our community. There’s one young lady, she’s doing shared housing for people that have had economic downturns but they need housing, so they have a room in the house, utilities included, while they’re getting themselves together. She’s partnering with other resources in the community to help them while they’re there: resume writing, job placement, things like that. So we highlight what’s going on in our community. Now this year, we’re broadening that to cover more economic development for areas and of course we have Amazon coming into the DC Metro area, so everybody wants to know what they’re doing.

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You’ve stumbled onto the podcast, Get Your FILL, Financial Independence, Long Life, where we look for ways to achieve those two goals. This week is in the sunrise series format. I hope you enjoyed the last episode where we interviewed Tyler Sheff, the CashFlow Guy.

Tyler is such a generous person. When I first met him, it was at Podfest, which is like a convention for people who want to do a podcast. And he knew, I told him, that I did not yet have a podcast. I said Look, this is just a goal. It is not a reality and I would really love to interview you even though I have nothing to offer. I can’t tell you. Oh, we have all these listeners whatever, nothing, and he said, “Sure I’ll do it.

I mean, who does that, right? He’s a busy guy, he’s got a lot going on. At the time, he was just getting ready to embark on his around-the-country motor-home journey and he just was so thoughtful and helpful and generous with his time. Give him a listen and hear what he has to say because he could change your life – just like that – in a half hour, just change your way of thinking about money.

This week, for Move-it Monday, let’s do this thing with our upper body, arms – it’s mostly arms, but it kind of incorporates your whole upper body. If you’re driving – when I’m driving is when I like to do this – I grab both sides of the steering wheel in a 3:00 and 9:00 position and grab the steering wheel and alternate between pulling it toward me and pushing it away from me and pulling it toward me and pushing it away from me, and tensing up, my whole arm, all the way up to my shoulder blade.

So, when I’m sitting there with my arms really tight, I’m kind of also pulling my shoulder blades, towards each other in the back. And then when you pull the steering wheel toward you, you’re sort of almost pulling your shoulders a little bit closer together in the front.

This is a way of just sort of tighten up your upper body and your arms and obviously you’re doing it when you’re not doing anything else that’s kind of my whole thing around these move-it Monday exercises, I mean anybody can get up in the morning and run or anybody can get up in the morning and go to the gym, but these are things you can do just in the course of your normal day, which is sort of my philosophy and I wanna just give this caveat, I’m not an exercise therapist, I’m not schooled in any sort of teaching any kind of exercise thing, I haven’t been to college to become a whatever, I don’t know jack about exercise. this is just stuff I do for myself and I look better than a lot of 55-year-olds. So take that as it is, but obviously don’t do anything that doesn’t feel good, don’t do anything unsafe, don’t so me, because I am telling you right out of the gate: I don’t know jack about exercise, this is just something I do in my day that seems to help me.

Alright, so that’s Move-it Monday: tighten up your arms, get some sort of resistance going and just use that upper body.

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The key to financial independence is creating a passive income stream.

If you are making money while you eat out in a nice restaurant, while you sail around the islands in a yacht, while you go on vacation and have fun and do other stuff, you don’t have to care about working for somebody else and making a paycheck.

You will have achieved financial independence, and that is why I’m so excited to have with us today Tyler Sheff. He’s the host of the CashFlow Guys podcast. Helping people invest in cash flowing assets for wealth. And he’s a super guy, real generous real nice, very, very knowledgeable, and you are gonna learn a ton from him, so get your pens ready.

So Tyler, thank you so much, I’m really very impressed with your generosity that as you have succeeded, that you’re taking time for people who are just getting started and very grateful for that.

Tyler: Thank you, I appreciate you reaching out and actually give me the opportunity to begin with.

Chris: It’s all, the pleasure is all mine, believe me.

So my thing is, the podcast is all around, it’s all about me, basically. I am 55 years old, I have about $50,000 and I don’t wanna work more than another couple of hours if possible. So what advice would you give to someone like me?

Tyler: Well, I would… The first advice I’d give you is don’t focus on what you do have and I know people hear that a lot, but really, I don’t, when we got started in real estate investing, we didn’t have $50,000 to be perfectly honest with you.

It’s great to have that nest egg, and what not, but I think it needs to be that. $50,000-$100,000-$500,000 is not enough money to get you out of the rat race – for most people anyway – or to escape the right race, it’s just not… And I hate to say it that way, but it helps people to get facts. Wall Street and everybody will try to tell you otherwise, just keep pumping money in our pockets and we promise you’ll eventually retire, wrong.

So how do you do that? Do you just give up and hope to die young or something like that, wait for social security? That doesn’t make sense, right?

So for us, it came down to… We needed to learn how to help other people.

And by help people, obviously, that comes with the normal help people that may have an apartment building, an asset that’s in trouble, and reposition all that good stuff, that’s great, but what people don’t realize is there are more folks out there that have capital sitting around that are in that position, those people that have that $50,000 sitting there, and they don’t have the courage that you do to go out – or the education or the experience – to go out and learn how to grow that, that nest egg. So what I found is that when you can provide a service where you can help other people grow their retirement, not like a financial planner, we actually make them money, and don’t charge them commissions.

I apologize in advance to any financial planners that might listen to this episode, if I hurt your feelings a little bit, you get over that.

I have friends who are financial planners, so they told me that I have a license to make fun of them because they actually invest their money with me.

Chris: And that’s fair for sure.

Tyler: Really… So let me get this straight. You make a living investing other people’s money, but then you bring that commission to me, to invest it for you? How about that. Okay, well that’s interesting… But seriously, there is an unbelievable number of

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You have stumbled onto a podcast called Get Your FILL, Financial Independence, Long Life where we look for solutions to achieve both of those goals. Episode number one was the Intro show where we explain the format and how it’s all gonna work.

This is episode number two, so let’s start right off with Move-it Monday. And what I’d like you to do is you if you’re sitting – and if this is safe to do, like say you’re sitting on the train or in your desk, or you’re at a meeting, or you should not be listening to podcasts in a meeting, but if you’re driving and you could put on cruise control maybe – just sit up really straight, and lift your feet off the floor like an inch, just really a really small amount if this hurts your back or anything, just do one foot at a time, but basically you wanna put your hand on your stomach and make sure that this motion that you’re sitting up straight, you’re lifting your feet up a teeny bit, is making your stomach get flatter. If you lift your feet up too far your stomach can stick out, and that’s obviously not what we are trying to train our muscles to do.

So this is a super exercise. You can do it in a meeting and you’re bored and you’re just like, “Oh my God, will this person ever stop talking? – you can just like, “Oh I’m gonna do some lift-ups and just lift your feet up just a tiny bit. Literally no more than an inch off the ground and keep your hand on your stomach just to make sure that’s flattening out.

Okay, and that is our Move-it Monday exercise. Now TAGR Tuesday, as we work our way through the week, TAGR is Think and Grow Rich, which is the book by Napoleon Hill, that so many people have cited as their inspiration, as their Bible, for achieving financial independence.

If you don’t know much about Napoleon Hill. Actually, I was gonna start with something else, but let’s just talk a little bit about Napoleon Hill.

He, as a young man, was given a challenge, I guess you could call it, by Andrew Carnegie, who wanted him to spend basically the next 20 years of his life interviewing the top leaders of corporate America and political leadership and Andrew Carnegie’s contribution was that he would give Napoleon Hill access to these people, but he would not pay Napoleon Hill, he had to do it all on his own initiative, and on his own dime, and he did. He said, “Okay I’m gonna take up that challenge. And he spent 20 maybe almost 25 years of his life just talking to people and asking them basically the same question, what is the secret to your success? What do you feel is a reproducible method of success that you can share with other people? And then he put all that into a book, he turned it into the 13 principles of success and he also has some principles of failure, things you can do it wrong.

But he took those success principles, and he turned it into a book, and named it Think and Grow Rich.

I’m gonna put a link on the website to the book, the one that I use, which is actually a really nice version, ’cause it has some forwards it has some prefaces and it also has a bunch of notes, a bunch of end notes from Napoleon Hill, a lot of it from other works by Napoleon Hill. And then some other folks just commenting on the impact of this book in their lives, including people like Bill Gates, who happen to have obviously, a crap-load