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Most leaders think their organizational problems are structural — that if they just rearrange the boxes on the org chart, everything will flow better.
But as organizational design consultant and executive coach Susannah Robinson explains, that’s rarely the real issue.
In this episode of Relationships at Work, host Russel Lolacher and Susannah break down what organizational design actually means — and how it connects directly to leadership behavior, culture, and employee experience.
Together, they explore:
Whether you’re leading a department, a small business, or an entire organization, this conversation will help you see organizational design as a relationship practice — not a chart exercise.
🎙️ Featuring: Susannah Robinson, Executive Coach, Organizational Design Consultant, President of Partnership for Talent, and author of Beyond the Boxes and Lines: Transforming Business Results Through Organizational Design.
Hey! If you're enjoying the insights from our guests, you'll love our R@W Notes Newsletter. It’s packed with guest takeaways, the resources that inspire them, and my own tips on how we as leaders can be better humans for the humans the are responsible for. Go to RelationshipsAtWorkShow.com and Subscribe Now and help the workplace be more human.
Want more from our conversations on the show? Subscribe to the R@W Notes Newsletter! It’s where I share top takeaways from our guests, the resources that fuel their success, and my personal insights on how we as leaders more human. And we need more human.
Go to RelationshipsAtWorkShow.com and Sign up today to keep your leadership journey on the right path.
And connect with me for more great content!
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Most leaders think their organizational problems are structural — that if they just rearrange the boxes on the org chart, everything will flow better.
But as organizational design consultant and executive coach Susannah Robinson explains, that’s rarely the real issue.
In this episode of Relationships at Work, host Russel Lolacher and Susannah break down what organizational design actually means — and how it connects directly to leadership behavior, culture, and employee experience.
Together, they explore:
Whether you’re leading a department, a small business, or an entire organization, this conversation will help you see organizational design as a relationship practice — not a chart exercise.
🎙️ Featuring: Susannah Robinson, Executive Coach, Organizational Design Consultant, President of Partnership for Talent, and author of Beyond the Boxes and Lines: Transforming Business Results Through Organizational Design.
Hey! If you're enjoying the insights from our guests, you'll love our R@W Notes Newsletter. It’s packed with guest takeaways, the resources that inspire them, and my own tips on how we as leaders can be better humans for the humans the are responsible for. Go to RelationshipsAtWorkShow.com and Subscribe Now and help the workplace be more human.
Want more from our conversations on the show? Subscribe to the R@W Notes Newsletter! It’s where I share top takeaways from our guests, the resources that fuel their success, and my personal insights on how we as leaders more human. And we need more human.
Go to RelationshipsAtWorkShow.com and Sign up today to keep your leadership journey on the right path.
And connect with me for more great content!

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