"When you know the box, it's a lot easier to think outside of it." – Justin Barnes In this episode of the RevThinking podcast, Joel Pilger speaks with Justin Barnes, founding partner and creative director at VERSUS.  Listen in for a candid conversation with Justin as he shares his journey co-founding his production company right in the heart of Manhattan. --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/revthinking/message Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/revthinking/support