Getting to Third Space with Lamar and Tom

An American citizen was shot and killed by an ICE officer in Minnesota. The video of the incident was clearly viewed by millions. The truth of what happened is not so clear, especially when the gaslighting starts. 

In this conversation, Lamar and Tom discuss the recent shooting of Renee Nicole Good in Minneapolis and its implications, particularly as it relates to the concept of gaslighting. They explore how conflicting narratives emerge in the wake of such events, the psychological manipulation involved, and the political ramifications of gaslighting. The discussion also touches on the importance of trust in leadership, the challenges of navigating misinformation, and the complexities of law enforcement accountability. Ultimately, they emphasize the need for critical thinking and due diligence in understanding the truth behind current events.

Learn More

Family and neighbors mourn woman who was shot by ICE agent and made Minneapolis home (The Associated Press)

New video of fatal Minnesota ICE shooting, from officer’s perspective, brings fresh scrutiny (The Associated Press)

The War on Perception: Gaslighting in Politics — Francesca Barca

Political Gaslighting — Keeps you warm but leaves you in the dark — Fanni Barckzikai and Republikon Institute

What is Gaslighting?  National Domestic Violence Hotline

What is Gaslighting?  Types and How to Respond

A 3rd Space Survey: Acts of Kindness

Do you have an act of kindness that you’d be willing to share? You can participate through a Google Forms Survey at this link: https://forms.gle/5NQakn6bgeXpm2us5

There you will find two kindness questions we’d like you to consider and then respond to:

• What is an act of kindness you’ve received that made a difference to you?

• What is an act of kindness you have done which you hope changed another person’s life?

What do we do with the acts we learn about in this survey? We save them and feature them in our Thanksgiving show each year…anonymously unless you prefer we use your name.

Finally, please share this survey because an act of kindness shared begets others.

How We Check Ourselves

Fact Checking: Because there are a lot of things happening…some true, some false, some unbelievable…we use the following fact checking sites. Take a look for yourself:

• Snopes - https://www.snopes.com/ 

• FactCheck.org - https://www.factcheck.org/ 

• Politifact - https://www.politifact.com/

• RealClearPolitics - https://www.realclearpolitics.com/ 

• Reuters FactCheck - https://www.reuters.com/fact-check/ 

Because media can have its own biases, we also rely upon these sites to help us get balanced coverage:

• Media Bias/Fact Check - https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/

• All Sides - https://www.allsides.com/unbiased-balanced-news

• Ad Fontes Media Bias Chart - https://app.adfontesmedia.com/chart/interactive 

Want to watch us do the podcast? Visit the Klaus Haus Productions YouTube Channel at https://www.youtube.com/@KlausHausProductions. 

Comments? Suggestions? Ideas for guests or topics? 

Send us a voice message on Spotify or email us at [email protected] and [email protected].

Credits:

Wild Opinions and Nonsensical Musings by Lamar Roth & Tom Klaus

Images by Getty Images, Pexels, Pixabay, Roth Images, and Cyberlink AI

Final review and approval by Jake and Ebie Dawgs Inc. 

Photos by Lamar Roth are copyrighted by Roth Images, All Rights Reserved. For permissions or additional information: [email protected] and https://www.rothimages.com/

Getting to 3rd Space with Lamar and Tom is produced and sponsored by Klaus Haus Productions LLC and Acorn Consulting, LLC. © 2025. All Rights Reserved. Permissions: [email protected]. 

No living creature was harmed in the production of this film but a lot of Colombian coffee was consumed.

Recorded using Riverside.fm - http://riverside.fm/ - from “home studio” locations in Maryland and Kansas, USA and Iowa; Original Publishing Date, January 20, 2026.

Stephen Owens was Lamar & Tom’s first guest on Getting to 3rd Space in the first season of the podcast. This week he is our first ever Table Talk guest on the podcast and we talk about school choice.

During the first season of our podcast Stephen Owens was representing the 74th District in the Kansas House of Representatives. He served in the Kansas House from 2019 to 2024. In 2025, Stephen was elected to the Kansas Senate and is now serving the 31st Senate District. In another first, Senator Owens is joining as our first guest for a Table Talk. He is a Republican lawmaker in Kansas. The topic is school choice. School choice, as we are thinking about it for this podcast, allows public education funds to be used to support K-12 students whose families choose for them to attend public, private, or charter schools, home schooling, or other educational environments they choose. 

Learn More

Learn more about Senator Stephen Owens, representing the 31st Senate District in the Kansas Statehouse: 

• State of Kansas, Senate Web - https://www.kslegislature.gov/li/b2025_26/members/sen_owens_stephen_1/ 

Learn more about the pros and cons of school choice:

• EdChoice - https://www.edchoice.org/

• University of Rochester - https://www.rochester.edu/newscenter/what-is-school-choice-pros-and-cons-564712/ 

• Britannica - https://www.britannica.com/procon/school-vouchers-debate 

A 3rd Space Survey: Acts of Kindness

Sen. Stephen Owens is the most recent of our guests to talk about acts of kindness he has received and given. Do you have an act of kindness that you’d like to share? You can participate through a Google Forms Survey at this link: https://forms.gle/5NQakn6bgeXpm2us5 

There you will find two kindness questions we’d like you to consider and then respond to:

What is an act of kindness you’ve received that made a difference to you? 

What is an act of kindness you have done which you hope changed another person’s life?

How We Check Ourselves

Fact Checking: Because there are a lot of things happening…some true, some false, some unbelievable…we use the following fact checking sites. Take a look for yourself:

• Snopes - https://www.snopes.com/ 

• FactCheck.org - https://www.factcheck.org/ 

• Politifact - https://www.politifact.com/

• RealClearPolitics - https://www.realclearpolitics.com/ 

Because media can have its own biases, we also rely upon these sites to help us get balanced coverage:

• Media Bias/Fact Check - https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/

• All Sides - https://www.allsides.com/unbiased-balanced-news

• Ad Fontes Media Bias Chart - https://app.adfontesmedia.com/chart/interactive 

Meet Lamar and Tom

Lamar Roth and Tom Klaus are lifelong friends exploring how to get to a 3rd Space - a space where two or more people with opposing viewpoints, ideologies, and worldviews can come together to hear, listen, share, and connect with one another.

Want to watch us do the podcast? Visit the Klaus Haus Productions YouTube Channel at https://www.youtube.com/@KlausHausProductions. 

Comments? Suggestions? Ideas for guests or topics? 

Send us a voice message on Spotify or email us at [email protected] and [email protected].

Credits:

Wild Opinions and Nonsensical Musings by Lamar Roth & Tom Klaus

Images by Getty Images, Pexels, Pixabay, Roth Images, and Cyberlink AI

Final review and approval by Jake and Ebie Dawgs Inc. 

Photos by Lamar Roth are copyrighted by Roth Images, All Rights Reserved. For permissions or additional information: [email protected] and https://www.rothimages.com/

Getting to 3rd Space with Lamar and Tom is produced and sponsored by Klaus Haus Productions LLC and Acorn Consulting, LLC. © 2025. All Rights Reserved. Permissions: [email protected]. 

No living creature was harmed in the production of this film but a lot of Colombian coffee was consumed.

Recorded using Riverside.fm - http://riverside.fm/ - from “home studio” locations in Maryland and Kansas, USA and Iowa; Original Publishing Date, January 6, 2026.

About this Episode

In this holiday-themed episode, Tom and Lamar reflect on their experiences and traditions surrounding December holidays. They share personal stories about their favorite holiday memories, gift-giving practices, and the role of pets in their lives. The conversation also highlights memorable moments from the podcast season and their plans for the future. Whatever holidays you celebrate and however you celebrate them, Lamar, Tom, Jake, and Ebie wish you the warmth of food, friends, and family and experience of peace in the new year. 

We are Looking for Acts of Kindness

Do you have an act of kindness that you’d like to share?

We gather Acts of Kindness for two reasons. First, we believe there is much more kindness in the world than incivility and that it needs to be highlighted. Second, we collect these Acts of Kindness to share and highlight during our annual Thanksgiving podcast. For this reason, it is always open and you can come back as many times as you like. We don’t ask your name and only tell us where you live (without too much detail please).

These are the two questions in our survey:

What is an act of kindness you’ve received that made a difference to you?

What is an act of kindness you have done which you hope changed another person’s life?

You can participate through a Google Forms poll at this link: https://forms.gle/Po83D9TBY2UUAuoZ8

Finally, please share this survey because an act of kindness shared begets others.

Learn more: 

Please visit our Substack -  https://klaushaus.substack.com/ - to see pictures of "Sailing Through the Winter Solstice" at Carroll Creek in Frederick, Maryland; Lamar's Shoo Fly pie and his spouses Homemade Cinnamon Roles they share each year with Tom and his spouse; Tom's Springerle (Anise Cakes) he and his spouse make to share year with Lamar and his spouse; and photos of Jake and Ebie.

How We Check Ourselves

Fact Checking: Because there are a lot of things happening…some true, some false, some unbelievable…we use the following fact checking sites. Take a look for yourself:

• Snopes - https://www.snopes.com/ 

• FactCheck.org - https://www.factcheck.org/ 

• Politifact - https://www.politifact.com/

• RealClearPolitics - https://www.realclearpolitics.com/ 

Because media can have its own biases, we also rely upon these sites to help us get balanced coverage:

• Media Bias/Fact Check - https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/

• All Sides - https://www.allsides.com/unbiased-balanced-news

• Ad Fontes Media Bias Chart - https://app.adfontesmedia.com/chart/interactive 

Meet Lamar and Tom

Lamar Roth and Tom Klaus are lifelong friends exploring how to get to a 3rd Space - a space where two or more people with opposing viewpoints, ideologies, and worldviews can come together to hear, listen, share, and connect with one another.

Want to watch us do the podcast? Visit the Klaus Haus Productions YouTube Channel at https://www.youtube.com/@KlausHausProductions. 

Comments? Suggestions? Ideas for guests or topics? 

Send us a voice message on Spotify or email us at [email protected] and [email protected].

Credits:

Wild Opinions and Nonsensical Musings by Lamar Roth & Tom Klaus

Images by Getty Images, Pexels, Pixabay, Roth Images, and Cyberlink

Final review and approval by Jake and Ebie Dawgs Inc. 

Photos by Lamar Roth are copyrighted by Roth Images, All Rights Reserved. For permissions or additional information: [email protected] and https://www.rothimages.com/

Getting to 3rd Space with Lamar and Tom is produced and sponsored by Klaus Haus Productions LLC and Acorn Consulting, LLC. © 2025. All Rights Reserved. Permissions: [email protected]. 

No living creature was harmed in the production of this film but a lot of Colombian coffee was consumed.

Recorded using Riverside.fm - http://riverside.fm/ - from “home studio” locations in Maryland and Kansas, USA; Original Publishing Date, December 23, 2025.

About this Episode

Michael Gaskins is a Philadelphian by birth and heart. In fact, he’ll take a soft, chewy Philly pretzel anytime over cookies. He began his career in television production with CBS, NBC, and CNN affiliates but has found himself drawn to work with incarcerated young men to help them prepare for their re-entry into society as citizens upon their release. For a time he operated a prison ministry to do that work and worked with Prison Fellowship (https://www.prisonfellowship.org/) as an area director. His desire to produce a reality TV show about young men returning to society from a prison sentence led him back to television production. For the past several years he has worked on TV courtroom shows including Relative Justice, Judge Steve Harvey, Tribunal Justice, and Judy Justice. In this conversation we learn more about his journey and the challenges of having open, honest, and civil conversations in the TV and film industry and also with young men in prison. Michael also shares an act of kindness he has received as well as one he has passed on. After leaving Hollywood in 2025, Michael Gaskins became the Director of Media and Communications for a faith community in Virginia and is in the process of starting his own production company. 

We are Looking for Acts of Kindness

Do you have an act of kindness that you’d like to share?

These are the two questions in our survey:

What is an act of kindness you’ve received that made a difference to you?

What is an act of kindness you have done which you hope changed another person’s life?

You can participate through a Google Forms poll at this link: https://forms.gle/Po83D9TBY2UUAuoZ8

Finally, please share this survey because an act of kindness shared begets others.

Learn more: 

Drexel Alumni Spotlight: Michael Gaskins - https://drexel.edu/westphal/about/alumni-spotlight/Michael-Gaskins/

When US Outlets Cover Black Shooting: An Interview with Michael Gaskins - https://www.media-diversity.org/when-us-outlets-cover-black-shootings-an-interview-with-michael-gaskins/

Michael Gaskins’ LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/michaelcgaskins

How We Check Ourselves

Fact Checking: Because there are a lot of things happening…some true, some false, some unbelievable…we use the following fact checking sites. Take a look for yourself:

• Snopes - https://www.snopes.com/ 

• FactCheck.org - https://www.factcheck.org/ 

• Politifact - https://www.politifact.com/

• RealClearPolitics - https://www.realclearpolitics.com/ 

Because media can have its own biases, we also rely upon these sites to help us get balanced coverage:

• Media Bias/Fact Check - https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/

• All Sides - https://www.allsides.com/unbiased-balanced-news

• Ad Fontes Media Bias Chart - https://app.adfontesmedia.com/chart/interactive 

Want to watch us do the podcast? Visit the Klaus Haus Productions YouTube Channel at https://www.youtube.com/@KlausHausProductions. 

Comments? Suggestions? Ideas for guests or topics? 

Send us a voice message on Spotify or email us at [email protected] and [email protected].

Credits:

Wild Opinions and Nonsensical Musings by Lamar Roth & Tom Klaus

Images by Getty Images, Pexels, Pixabay, Roth Images, and Cyberlink

Final review and approval by Jake and Ebie Dawgs Inc. 

Photos by Lamar Roth are copyrighted by Roth Images, All Rights Reserved. For permissions or additional information: [email protected] and https://www.rothimages.com/

Getting to 3rd Space with Lamar and Tom is produced and sponsored by Klaus Haus Productions LLC and Acorn Consulting, LLC. © 2025. All Rights Reserved. Permissions: [email protected]. 

No living creature was harmed in the production of this film but a lot of Colombian coffee was consumed.

Recorded using Riverside.fm - http://riverside.fm/ - from “home studio” locations in Maryland and Kansas, USA; Original Publishing Date, December 9, 2025.

This week is Thanksgiving in the United States and Lamar & Tom take time to celebrate by sharing acts of kindness submitted by listeners and viewers over the last two months.

Since August 2025, Lamar & Tom have been collecting responses to two questions about acts of kindness. The first is, “What is an act of kindness you’ve received that made a difference to you?” The second is “What is an act of kindness you have done which you hope changed another person’s life?” In today’s episode they share responses they’ve received from listeners from around half the world (from Hawai`i to the United Kingdom), recent guests, and their own stories. 

Today, settle back, listen, smile, laugh, and be thankful for the many people in our world who, despite the news, are still acting with kindness. Then, consider sharing your responses to those two questions in our ongoing Acts of Kindness survey. We start collecting for next Thanksgiving’s podcast today. 

A 3rd Space Survey: Acts of Kindness

Do you have an act of kindness that you’d like to share? 

We gather Acts of Kindness for two reasons. First, we believe there is much more kindness in the world than incivility and that it needs to be highlighted. Second, we collect these Acts of Kindness to share and highlight during our annual Thanksgiving podcast. For this reason, it is always open and you can come back as many times as you like. We don't ask your name and only tell us where you live (without too much detail please). 

These are the two questions in our survey: 

What is an act of kindness you’ve received that made a difference to you? 

What is an act of kindness you have done which you hope changed another person’s life?

You can participate through a Google Forms poll at this link: 

https://forms.gle/Po83D9TBY2UUAuoZ8 

Finally, please share this survey because an act of kindness shared begets others. 

Learn more: 

Fresh Step Laundry, https://www.freshsteplaundry.com/

Lasagna Love, https://lasagnalove.org/

Midlife Stockman, https://www.youtube.com/@MidlifeStockman 

How We Check Ourselves

Fact Checking: Because there are a lot of things happening…some true, some false, some unbelievable…we use the following fact checking sites. Take a look for yourself:

• Snopes - https://www.snopes.com/ 

• FactCheck.org - https://www.factcheck.org/ 

• Politifact - https://www.politifact.com/

• RealClearPolitics - https://www.realclearpolitics.com/ 

Because media can have its own biases, we also rely upon these sites to help us get balanced coverage:

• Media Bias/Fact Check - https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/

• All Sides - https://www.allsides.com/unbiased-balanced-news

• Ad Fontes Media Bias Chart - https://app.adfontesmedia.com/chart/interactive 

Want to watch us do the podcast? Visit the Klaus Haus Productions YouTube Channel at https://www.youtube.com/@KlausHausProductions. 

Comments? Suggestions? Ideas for guests or topics? 

Send us a voice message on Spotify or email us at [email protected] and [email protected].

Credits:

Wild Opinions and Nonsensical Musings by Lamar Roth & Tom Klaus

Images by Getty Images, Pexels, Pixabay, Roth Images, and Cyberlink AI

Final review and approval by Jake and Ebie Dawgs Inc. 

Photos by Lamar Roth are copyrighted by Roth Images, All Rights Reserved. For permissions or additional information: [email protected] and https://www.rothimages.com/

Getting to 3rd Space with Lamar and Tom is produced and sponsored by Klaus Haus Productions LLC and Acorn Consulting, LLC. © 2025. All Rights Reserved. Permissions: [email protected]. 

No living creature was harmed in the production of this film but a lot of Colombian coffee was consumed.

Recorded November 18, 2025 using Riverside.fm - http://riverside.fm/ - from “home studio” locations in Maryland and Kansas, USA; Original Publishing Date, November 25, 2025.

This episode of Getting to 3rd Space is Part 2 of our conversation with Christie Vilsack, writer, teacher, Former First Lady of Iowa, and sponsor of the Navy’s U.S.S. Iowa, a nuclear submarine. 

Our conversation continues with a focus on literacy, acts of kindness, and the benefits of growing up in rural America. Christie writes the Substack column, “Common Ground,” in which she tells stories of the people she has met and the ties that connect them. A link to her Substack is provided below. This podcast is the second of two and you can listen to or view the first part @klaushausproductions on YouTube. 

A 3rd Space Survey: Acts of Kindness

Christie Vilsack is the most recent of our guests to talk with us about acts of kindness they have received and extended. Do you have an act of kindness that you’d like to share? 

There are two kindness questions we’d like you to consider responding to:

What is an act of kindness you’ve received that made a difference to you? 

What is an act of kindness you have done which you hope changed another person’s life?

You can participate through a Google Forms poll at this link: https://forms.gle/5NQakn6bgeXpm2us5 

Learn more: 

Common Ground, a Substack column by Christie Vilsack - https://christievilsack.substack.com/ 

USS Iowa (nuclear submarine) - https://ssn797.com/about-us 

American is Sliding Toward Illiteracy, by Idrees Kalhoon in The Atlantic - https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2025/10/education-decline-low-expectations/684526/?gift=OkCOMnff83tE105ER-Egr9RBJ6X_L1UNSsOAWWYxod8&utm_source=copy-link&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=share

The Anxious Generation, by Jonathan Haidt - https://a.co/d/8tWME8n

Disagree Better, An Initiative by the National Governor’s Conference - https://www.nga.org/disagree-better/ 

And of course, the Frederick Flying Cows Basketball team - https://goflyingcows.com/ 

How We Check Ourselves

Fact Checking: Because there are a lot of things happening…some true, some false, some unbelievable…we use the following fact checking sites. Take a look for yourself:

• Snopes - https://www.snopes.com/ 

• FactCheck.org - https://www.factcheck.org/ 

• Politifact - https://www.politifact.com/

• RealClearPolitics - https://www.realclearpolitics.com/ 

Because media can have its own biases, we also rely upon these sites to help us get balanced coverage:

• Media Bias/Fact Check - https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/

• All Sides - https://www.allsides.com/unbiased-balanced-news

• Ad Fontes Media Bias Chart - https://app.adfontesmedia.com/chart/interactive 

Want to watch us do the podcast? Visit the Klaus Haus Productions YouTube Channel at https://www.youtube.com/@KlausHausProductions. 

Comments? Suggestions? Ideas for guests or topics? 

Send us a voice message on Spotify or email us at [email protected] and [email protected].

Credits:

Wild Opinions and Nonsensical Musings by Lamar Roth & Tom Klaus

Images by Getty Images, Pexels, Pixabay, Roth Images, and Cyberlink AI

Final review and approval by Jake and Ebie Dawgs Inc. 

Photos by Lamar Roth are copyrighted by Roth Images, All Rights Reserved. For permissions or additional information: [email protected] and https://www.rothimages.com/

Getting to 3rd Space with Lamar and Tom is produced and sponsored by Klaus Haus Productions LLC and Acorn Consulting, LLC. © 2025. All Rights Reserved. Permissions: [email protected]. 

No living creature was harmed in the production of this film but a lot of Colombian coffee was consumed.

Recorded October 16, 2025 using Riverside.fm - http://riverside.fm/ - from “home studio” locations in Maryland and Kansas, USA and Iowa; Original Publishing Date, November 11, 2025.

Today’s guest on Getting to 3rd Space is Christie Vilsack. She describes herself as a "Teacher, writer, wife, mom and gramma. Proud Iowa first lady, congressional candidate, and USAID education advisor. A world traveler but an Iowan by birth and choice. I write about people living close to the land, who believe in community and the public good. I tend to favor underdogs.” She is also the sponsor of the U.S.S. Iowa, a nuclear submarine commissioned earlier this year.

This podcast is Part 1 of 2. In this episode Christie talks about her Substack column “Common Ground,” speaking truth to power and authority, the pride she has in her Iowa roots, and, of course, what it means to sponsor a Navy submarine. Part 2 will air on Tuesday, November 11, 2025.

A 3rd Space Survey: Acts of Kindness

Inspired by our recent conversation with Joolz Casey of #behumankind are now inviting listeners/viewers to participate in our ongoing “Acts of Kindness” poll. You can participate by answering two simple questions: 

What is an act of kindness you’ve received that made a difference to you? 

What is an act of kindness you have done which you hope changed another person’s life?

You can participate through a Google Forms poll at this link: https://forms.gle/5NQakn6bgeXpm2us5 

Learn more: 

Common Ground - https://christievilsack.substack.com/USS Iowa (nuclear submarine) - https://ssn797.com/about-us

American is Sliding Toward Illiteracy, by Idrees Kalhoon in The Atlantic - https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2025/10/education-decline-low-expectations/684526/?gift=OkCOMnff83tE105ER-Egr9RBJ6X_L1UNSsOAWWYxod8&utm_source=copy-link&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=share

The Anxious Generation, by Jonathan Haidt - https://a.co/d/8tWME8n

Disagree Better, An Initiative by the National Governor’s Conference - https://www.nga.org/disagree-better/ 

How We Check Ourselves

Fact Checking: Because there are a lot of things happening…some true, some false, some unbelievable…we use the following fact checking sites.

• Snopes - https://www.snopes.com/ 

• FactCheck.org - https://www.factcheck.org/ 

• Politifact - https://www.politifact.com/

• RealClearPolitics - https://www.realclearpolitics.com/ 

Because media can have its own biases, we also rely upon these sites to help us get balanced coverage:

• Media Bias/Fact Check - https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/

• All Sides - https://www.allsides.com/unbiased-balanced-news

• Ad Fontes Media Bias Chart - https://app.adfontesmedia.com/chart/interactive 

Meet Lamar and Tom

Lamar Roth and Tom Klaus are lifelong friends exploring how to get to a 3rd Space - a space where two or more people with opposing viewpoints, ideologies, and worldviews can come together to hear, listen, share, and connect with one another.

Want to watch us do the podcast? Visit the Klaus Haus Productions YouTube Channel at https://www.youtube.com/@KlausHausProductions. 

Comments? Suggestions? Ideas for guests or topics? 

Send us a voice message on Spotify or email us at [email protected] and [email protected].

Credits:

Wild Opinions and Nonsensical Musings by Lamar Roth & Tom Klaus

Images by Getty Images, Pexels, Pixabay, Roth Images, and Cyberlink AI

Final review and approval by Jake and Ebie Dawgs Inc. 

Photos by Lamar Roth are copyrighted by Roth Images, All Rights Reserved. For permissions or additional information: [email protected] and https://www.rothimages.com/

Getting to 3rd Space with Lamar and Tom is produced and sponsored by Klaus Haus Productions LLC and Acorn Consulting, LLC. © 2025. All Rights Reserved. Permissions: [email protected]. 

No living creature was harmed in the production of this film but a lot of Colombian coffee was consumed.

Help us grow our audience by sharing this post. It is public and can be shared without obligation or cost. Thanks!Recorded October 16, 2025 using Riverside.fm - http://riverside.fm/ - from “home studio” locations in Maryland, Kansas, and Iowa, USA; Original Publishing Date, October 28, 2025.

Lamar and Tom talk with Senator Ethan Corson about his decision to run for Governor the State of Kansas. Ethan emphasizes the importance of bipartisan leadership and staying focused on the everyday issues that matter to families. He shares insights on maintaining civility in political campaigns, the significance of community colleges, and his vision for making Kansas an affordable state. Throughout the discussion, Ethan Corson highlights the value of kindness and mentorship in politics as he reflects on his own path into politics. His own experience highlights the importance of fostering positive engagement with the next generation.

Learn more: 

Ethan’s Kitchen Table Campaign Ad: ⁠https://www.youtube.com/shorts/QBerwoq1ovk⁠ 

To learn more about how Republican colleagues view Ethan Corson, see: ⁠https://pro.stateaffairs.com/ks/elections/ethan-corson-kansas-governor⁠  Or download and read here: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1AfU1f3Q7IKAttNR-Ua4z_e7MKm7B7hTw/view?usp=sharing 

Meet Ethan Corson (Wikipedia)https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethan_Corson 

Ethan Corson Campaign Website https://www.ethanforkansas.com/about

Senator Ethan Corson at the Kansas Statehouse https://www.kslegislature.gov/li/b2025_26/members/sen_corson_ethan_1/ 

A 3rd Space Survey: Acts of Kindness

Inspired by our recent conversation with Joolz Casey of #behumankind are now inviting listeners/viewers to participate in our ongoing “Acts of Kindness” poll. You can participate by answering two simple questions: 

What is an act of kindness you’ve received that made a difference to you? 

What is an act of kindness you have done which you hope changed another person’s life?

You can participate through a Google Forms poll at this link: https://forms.gle/5NQakn6bgeXpm2us5 

How We Check Ourselves

Fact Checking: Because there are a lot of things happening…some true, some false, some unbelievable…we use the following fact checking sites. Take a look for yourself:

• Snopes - https://www.snopes.com/ 

• FactCheck.org - https://www.factcheck.org/ 

• Politifact - https://www.politifact.com/

• RealClearPolitics - https://www.realclearpolitics.com/ 

Because media can have its own biases, we also rely upon these sites to help us get balanced coverage:

• Media Bias/Fact Check - https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/

• All Sides - https://www.allsides.com/unbiased-balanced-news

• Ad Fontes Media Bias Chart - https://app.adfontesmedia.com/chart/interactive 

Meet Lamar and Tom

Lamar Roth and Tom Klaus are lifelong friends exploring how to get to a 3rd Space - a space where two or more people with opposing viewpoints, ideologies, and worldviews can come together to hear, listen, share, and connect with one another. Together Lamar and Tom hope to carve out a 3rd Space where everything can be on the table for open, straightforward, honest, and, yet kind and respectful inquiry. 

Want to watch us do the podcast? Visit the Klaus Haus Productions YouTube Channel at https://www.youtube.com/@KlausHausProductions. 

Comments? Suggestions? Ideas for guests or topics? 

Send us a voice message on Spotify or email us at [email protected] and [email protected].

Credits:

Wild Opinions and Nonsensical Musings by Lamar Roth & Tom Klaus

Images by Getty Images, Pexels, Pixabay, Roth Images, and Cyberlink AI

Final review and approval by Jake and Ebie Dawgs Inc. 

Photos by Lamar Roth are copyrighted by Roth Images, All Rights Reserved. For permissions or additional information: [email protected] and https://www.rothimages.com/

Getting to 3rd Space with Lamar and Tom is produced and sponsored by Klaus Haus Productions LLC and Acorn Consulting, LLC. © 2025. All Rights Reserved. Permissions: [email protected]. 

No living creature was harmed in the production of this film but a lot of Colombian coffee was consumed.

Recorded September 16, 2025 using Riverside.fm - http://riverside.fm/ - from “home studio” locations in Maryland and Kansas, USA; Original Publishing Date, October 14, 2025.

About this Episode

What happens when two Hawkeyes get together in person? Well, there are some are stupid jokes as well as good conversation. Join Lamar & Tom for a Getting to 3rd Space episode from Tom's home studio. 

Lamar Roth and Tom Klaus recorded this episode in person in Tom’s Frederick, Maryland home studio. They talked about Lamar’s experience with a new (and very small) camper he and his spouse used to camp en route from Kansas. Lamar pulls off a golf joke with Tom and Tom flubs a joke with Lamar. They talk about a couple places they visited during Lamar’s stay and challenges with GPS vs. Google Maps. On a more serious note, they discuss the importance of positive dialogue in the face of tragedy and the distinction between debate and dialogue. Before grousing that their day at the Great Frederick Fair is a rain out, Lamar and Tom also explore the role of leadership in decision-making.

A 3rd Space Survey: Acts of Kindness

Inspired by Joolz Casey of #behumankind are now inviting listeners/viewers to participate in our ongoing “Acts of Kindness” poll. You can participate by answering two simple questions: 

What is an act of kindness you’ve received that made a difference to you? 

What is an act of kindness you have done which you hope changed another person’s life?

You can participate through a Google Forms poll at this link: https://forms.gle/5NQakn6bgeXpm2us5 

Learn more: 

Shepherdstown, West Virginia: https://shepherdstown.info/ 

Evergreen. Colorado School Shooting: https://www.pbs.org/newshour/nation/colorado-student-shot-2-peers-and-then-himself-at-high-school-authorities-say

Charlie Kirk Assassination: https://www.pbs.org/video/charlie-kirk-murder-backer-1757622641/ 

The Great Frederick Fair: https://thegreatfrederickfair.com/

How We Check Ourselves

Fact Checking: Because there are a lot of things happening…some true, some false, some unbelievable…we use the following fact checking sites. Take a look for yourself:

• Snopes - https://www.snopes.com/ 

• FactCheck.org - https://www.factcheck.org/ 

• Politifact - https://www.politifact.com/

• RealClearPolitics - https://www.realclearpolitics.com/ 

Because media can have its own biases, we also rely upon these sites to help us get balanced coverage:

• Media Bias/Fact Check - https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/

• All Sides - https://www.allsides.com/unbiased-balanced-news

• Ad Fontes Media Bias Chart - https://app.adfontesmedia.com/chart/interactive 

Meet Lamar and Tom

Lamar Roth and Tom Klaus are lifelong friends exploring how to get to a 3rd Space - a space where two or more people with opposing viewpoints, ideologies, and worldviews can come together to hear, listen, share, and connect with one another. Together Lamar and Tom hope to carve out a 3rd Space where everything can be on the table for open, straightforward, honest, and, yet kind and respectful inquiry. 

Want to watch us do the podcast? Visit the Klaus Haus Productions YouTube Channel at https://www.youtube.com/@KlausHausProductions. 

Comments? Suggestions? Ideas for guests or topics? 

Send us a voice message on Spotify or email us at [email protected] and [email protected].

Credits:

Wild Opinions and Nonsensical Musings by Lamar Roth & Tom Klaus

Images by Getty Images, Pexels, Pixabay, Roth Images, and Cyberlink AI

Final review and approval by Jake and Ebie Dawgs Inc. 

Photos by Lamar Roth are copyrighted by Roth Images, All Rights Reserved. For permissions or additional information: [email protected] and https://www.rothimages.com/

Getting to 3rd Space with Lamar and Tom is produced and sponsored by Klaus Haus Productions LLC and Acorn Consulting, LLC. © 2025. All Rights Reserved. Permissions: [email protected]. 

No living creature was harmed in the production of this film but a lot of Colombian coffee was consumed.

Recorded September 17, using Riverside.fm - http://riverside.fm/ - from a home studio location in Maryland, USA; Original Publishing Date, September 29, 2025.

What is the power in a name? How do you have challenging conversations about difficult to break personal habits, even addiction? These are just a couple of things discussed in today’s Getting to 3rd Space with Lamar & Tom. 

In this conversation, Stan “The Man” Martin discusses his extensive work in community engagement and public health, particularly focusing on the fight against menthol tobacco. Stan is a native son of Buffalo, NY where he continues to live and work today. In this interview he tells Lamar and Tom about the touching origin of his nickname, “Stan the Man.” ThroughHe emphasizes the importance of authentic engagement, listening to community needs, and the impact of marketing on health disparities. Stan shares personal stories and insights on navigating difficult conversations, building collaborative efforts, and the role of kindness in creating positive change within communities.

A 3rd Space Survey: Acts of Kindness

Inspired by our recent conversation with Joolz Casey of #behumankind are now inviting listeners/viewers to participate in our ongoing “Acts of Kindness” poll. You can participate by answering two simple questions: 

What is an act of kindness you’ve received that made a difference to you? 

What is an act of kindness you have done which you hope changed another person’s life?

You can participate through a Google Forms poll at this link: https://forms.gle/5NQakn6bgeXpm2us5 

Learn more: 

Stan “The Man” Martin’s website: https://www.stanmartinconsulting.com/

How the tobacco industry targeted Black Americans with menthol smokes: https://www.npr.org/2022/04/29/1095291808/tobacco-industry-targeted-black-americans-with-menthols 

The Master Settlement Agreement (with tobacco companies): https://www.naag.org/our-work/naag-center-for-tobacco-and-public-health/the-master-settlement-agreement/ 

Congress Investigates Tobacco Industry: https://www.c-span.org/program/congress-investigates/tobacco-industry/638858

2022 Buffalo Shooting: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2022_Buffalo_shooting 

How We Check Ourselves

Fact Checking: Because there are a lot of things happening…some true, some false, some unbelievable…we use the following fact checking sites. Take a look for yourself:

• Snopes - https://www.snopes.com/ 

• FactCheck.org - https://www.factcheck.org/ 

• Politifact - https://www.politifact.com/

• RealClearPolitics - https://www.realclearpolitics.com/ 

Because media can have its own biases, we also rely upon these sites to help us get balanced coverage:

• Media Bias/Fact Check - https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/

• All Sides - https://www.allsides.com/unbiased-balanced-news

• Ad Fontes Media Bias Chart - https://app.adfontesmedia.com/chart/interactive 

Want to watch us do the podcast? Visit the Klaus Haus Productions YouTube Channel at https://www.youtube.com/@KlausHausProductions. 

Comments? Suggestions? Ideas for guests or topics? 

Send us a voice message on Spotify or email us at [email protected] and [email protected].

Credits:

Wild Opinions and Nonsensical Musings by Lamar Roth & Tom Klaus

Images by Getty Images, Pexels, Pixabay, Roth Images, and Cyberlink AI

Final review and approval by Jake and Ebie Dawgs Inc. 

Photos by Lamar Roth are copyrighted by Roth Images, All Rights Reserved. For permissions or additional information: [email protected] and https://www.rothimages.com/

Getting to 3rd Space with Lamar and Tom is produced and sponsored by Klaus Haus Productions LLC and Acorn Consulting, LLC. © 2025. All Rights Reserved. Permissions: [email protected]. 

No living creature was harmed in the production of this film but a lot of Colombian coffee was consumed.

Recorded August 6, 2025 using Riverside.fm - http://riverside.fm/ - from “home studio” locations in Maryland and Kansas, USA and Buffalo, NY; Original Publishing Date, September 15, 2025.