After 52 years of war, on the eve of the signing of a peace deal between

the Colombian government and the FARC guerilla force, I speak with

William Ury, author of a seminal book on negotiating, Getting to Yes.  Ury

was part of the Colombian President’s “kitchen cabinet” of peace

advisers. He recounts a risky, secret move, deep in the jungle, that

jump-started the peace process, and an exercise critical to the peace

effort – in effect, writing your adversary’s victory speech, as well as

your own.  Ury speaks to us by phone from Cartagena, site of Monday’s historic signing.