Getting Work To Work

Getting Work To Work

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  • “The Future is the Past” with Lee McColgan (GWTW778)

    What’s the point of preserving old homes? Why do old homes matter? Two driving questions for today’s interview with Lee McColgan, woodworker, restorer of old homes, and author of A House Restored: The Tragedies and Triumphs of Saving a New England Colonial. Lee shares his philosophy, how he thinks about old things, and many stories about his journey from finance to woodworking and home restoration. We talk about his fascination with how things are made by hand, the breadcrumbs of our work present throughout our lives, the creative drive and purpose of his work, the impermanence of all things, the eccentric personalities of people he’s met over the years, why generalization is dangerous, and interesting things he’s found hidden in the walls.

    Show Links
    • Lee McColgan on Instagram (@helvehistorictrades)
    • A House Restored: The Tragedies and Triumphs of Saving a New England Colonial by Lee McColgan
    • The Last of the Mohicans (1992)
    • Stranger Things (2016–2025)
    • James Victore
    • Wall Street (1987)
    • The Big Short: Inside the Doomsday Machine by Michael Lewis
    • Building the Timber Frame House: The Revival of a Forgotten Craft by Tedd Benson with James Gruber
    • Bensonwood
    • The Framed Houses of Massachusetts Bay, 1625–1725 by Abbott Lowell Cummings
    • The Old Way of Seeing (And How to Get It Back) by Jonathan Hale
    • The Age of Wood: Our Most Useful Material and the Construction of Civilization by Roland Ennos
    • Mark Kurlansky
    • Sapiens: A Brief History of Humankind by Yuval Noah Harari
    • Photo by Carlo Borella on Unsplash
    • 1 hr 5 min
    • Prepared to Be Unprepared (GWTW777)

      The simplest quotes are often the deepest and inspire endless reflection. In my conversation last week with Gregg Brown—entrepreneur, keynote speaker, and author—he dropped a short sentence that stopped me in my tracks: “We have to be prepared to be unprepared.” My mind filled up with questions. How does one prepare to be unprepared? Why can’t we prepare for all possibilities before they happen? How does preparing for how we will respond to the unknown becoming known impact all areas of our lives and work? In this episode, I’m diving into this quote and my questions in greater detail and hopefully discover a healthier mindset when faced with change.

      Show Links:
      • Gregg Brown – BeChangeReady.com
      • “Change is the Future” with Gregg Brown (GWTW776)
      • Midjourney prompt for episode art: unprepared for change and the future in the style of dadaism oversaturated colors –ar 16:9
      • 10 min
      • “Change is the Future” with Gregg Brown (GWTW776)

        How prepared are you for the future of your work? Maybe you are coasting on continual success, not worried about what’s on the horizon. Perhaps you find yourself in a season of loss, feeling threatened by the rise of AI tools and frustrated with disruptive change. Regardless of where you are at in your professional journey, today’s guest is on the show to teach us how to be change ready. Gregg Brown is an entrepreneur, speaker, and author of Spark Action: How to Lead Change That Matters. He helps “leaders and teams get ready for the future so they can tackle change head-on and get things done.” In our conversation, he shares what getting future-ready in a rapidly changing world means. We also discuss the need for critical thinking and decision-making in the age of AI, how to bring our personality and brand of magic to our work, why it’s crucial to shed our corporate skin, what change looks like in the middle of your career, and the importance of taking action and being explorers in everything we do.

        Show Links
        • Gregg Brown – BeChangeReady.com
        • Spark Action: How to Lead Change That Matters by Gregg Brown
        • Midjourney prompt for episode art: being change ready, human resilience, futurism, neon cinematic lighting –ar 16:9 –v 6.0
        • 1 hr 2 min
        • Rules & Tools for Fools (GWTW775)

          What rules do you follow because you believe they will lead to success? What tools do you use to ensure you can be as relevant as possible? What if these rules and tools have the opposite effect on your life, and you can’t see it because you’re too close? What if social media is actually turning you into a new person you don’t want to be, doing what you don’t want to do? What if all your daily actions to stand out and get noticed shape you into a societal clone? How many more questions can I fit into this opening synopsis? One more? I love it when a book enters my world and shakes it up. Anti Rule: Navigating The Lies About Fiction Writing by Christian Francis is the small but mighty book that inspired today’s episode. So, put on your dunce cap and join me in detention. It’s time to chat about what we’re doing wrong.

          Reflection Questions:
          1. What rules do you follow blindly despite knowing they aren’t working, hoping that if you just hold on a little bit longer, inertia will shift and success will be in your favor?
          2. What tools do you use begrudgingly because you think they are what you have to use to be accepted?
          3. How can you embrace the label of “fool” and become devoted to the work that matters to you, while stripping away all the baggage?
          4. Show Links
            • Anti Rule: Navigating The Lies About Fiction Writing by Christian Francis
            • Echo On Publishing
            • Love and Monsters (2020)
            • Midjourney prompt for episode art: surrounded by clones
            • 11 min
            • “Infusing Work with Our Humanity” with Solveig Petch (GWTW774)

              How do you pitch yourself and your business to podcasts you want to be a guest on, people you want to connect with, and companies you want to bring into your network? By taking the courageous step and shamelessly sending the email or making the call. Today’s guest did that after hearing an earlier episode of Getting Work To Work with Rachel Allen. Solveig Petch is a strategic brand consultant and creative director providing “remarkable branding for the quietly rebellious.” In our conversation, we talk about the importance of sending shameless pitches and the difference between courage and confidence. She shares what a brand is and how it’s different than branding, what it takes to build a stand-out brand, why we choose generic values instead of those that will help us stand apart, and why it’s okay to want to keep changing the world.

              Show Links
              • Petchy
              • Randi Buckley – Healthy Boundaries for Kind People®
              • What Works by Tara McMullin
              • Bolt from the Blue Copywriting
              • “Words Make Worlds” with Rachel Allen (GWTW765)
              • No Plan B: A Handbook for Incurable Entrepreneurs and Other Rebellious Souls by Heather Thorkelson
              • Midjourney prompt for episode art: abstract surreal authentic human humanity –ar 16:9
              • 56 min
              • Beyond Your Body of Work (GWTW773)

                Earlier this week, in my paid newsletter for Getting Work To Work, I was reflecting upon the question: How is your body of work holding you back from experimenting with risky creative ideas and exploring new directions? No matter how long you’ve worked on your craft, you inevitably amass a body of work. The apparent measure is quantity, but you can also look at quality with an eye toward growth and outcomes. But the more I think about my body of work, the more I wonder if it’s a hindrance rather than a help. What does it communicate to a potential employer or client? How can it hold you back by morphing from what you’ve done into a statement of being on-brand, not to mention consistency? Questions aside, I want to explore what to do if you feel stuck and need to take a creative chance beyond what you’ve done before.

                Four ways to inject creative risk and experimentation into your creative journey:
                1. Reexamine your systems and processes.
                2. Identify playing-it-safe behaviors and how you can counter them with small creative risks.
                3. Imagine your creative future based upon what you are doing today.
                4. Seek new partnerships and collaborators.
                5. Show Links
                  • Getting Work To Work on Substack
                  • Midjourney prompt for episode art: creative risk and experimentation, body of work, portfolio, creativity in the style of dadaists –ar 16:9
                  • 14 min
                  • “Legacy of a Lost Angel” with Brian Lindstrom (GWTW772)

                    I first met today’s guest near the beginning of my creative journey at the Northwest Film Center in Portland, Oregon, where I was taking a workshop on interviewing techniques. Almost 20 years later, he is on Getting Work To Work to share his latest project hitting theaters and the internet today. Brian Lindstrom is a documentarian and co-director of Lost Angel: The Genius of Judee Sill. In our conversation, Brian shares what captures his attention in filmmaking: the stories of struggles and victories and the beauty, strength, and resilience to overcome the odds. He talks about his first exposure to Judee’s music in the early days of YouTube, why she was more than the one-note tragic story her Wikipedia page describes, why some projects need to take longer than others, and the joys of collaboration he experienced on this film. Most importantly, Brian reminds us of the importance of independent filmmakers and how we can vote with our attention and wallets.

                    Show Links
                    • Lost Angel: The Genius of Judee Sill
                    • Brian Lindstrom
                    • Alien Boy: The Life and Death of James Chasse (2013)
                    • Andy Brown
                    • Hollywood Dreams & Nightmares: The Robert Englund Story (2022)
                    • The Northwest Film Center is now PAM CUT
                    • Judee Sill
                    • Andy Partridge
                    • Judee Sill – The Kiss – The Old Grey Whistle Test 1973
                    • Dreams Come True by Judee Sill
                    • Beth Harrington
                    • The Winding Stream (2014)
                    • Mia Nolting
                    • NiemannWorks Animation
                    • Gary Meister
                    • Bonnie Consolo
                    • Kuleshov effect
                    • Shadow Play (1986)
                    • Kelley Baker
                    • Beyond Your Imagination
                    • Regional Arts and Culture Council
                    • On the Bowery (1956)
                    • Cinema 21
                    • 34 min
                    • Life of Forgotten Dreams (GWTW771)

                      Earlier today, I was writing about the National Geographic docuseries, Photographer, and my lifelong love of photography. This newsletter led me to explore my archives from two trips to Africa in 2008 and Haiti in 2012. Scrolling through thousands of photos, most not very good, I could see something in my work that only the passage of time allowed me to see: the desire to capture and be present with people. In 2008, I could feel the fear, but my creative brain was at work to document what I was experiencing. 2012 was a different story. I was documenting like before, but I was getting closer, physically and emotionally, as I engaged with people. I felt less fear and was more present. And then I came home. I had an adverse reaction to the anti-malarial medication I was taking, and I wanted to die. I didn’t, physically, but part of my creative spirit disappeared over time. And as I look at pictures of me from that time, I realize just how much I miss that young man and his dreams.

                      Five ways to pay attention to your forgotten dreams and actually start bringing them to life:
                      1. Spend time in your creative archives.
                      2. Let imposter syndrome be a guide, not a deterrent.
                      3. Create a new vision for your future by combining your long forgotten dreams with who you have become.
                      4. Be kind to yourself for the decisions and mistakes you’ve made.
                      5. Become the mentor you never had for yourself and for others starting out in their career.
                      6. Show Links
                        • Monty Python and the Holy Grail (1975)
                        • Photographer (2024)
                        • 14 min
                        • Where We Find Ourselves (GWTW770)

                          How are you doing? No, really, how are you? Scanning social media lately, I see similar messages: clients are disappearing, budgets are shrinking, ghosting has become normalized, big companies are reducing their workforce, and burnout is the new badge of honor for independent creators. It’s tough out there. And in today’s episode, I will dive right into this topic for those of us who have been business owners and independent creators for years and decades. It can be hard to know what to do. I am struggling to know myself, but hopefully, there will be something I share in this episode that helps you face the road ahead.

                          Seven ways to begin answering the question, What are you going to do?
                          1. Stabilize yourself before attempting to address any business shortcomings.
                          2. Once you stabilize yourself, reconnect to your friends and colleagues, and reinforce the community around you.
                          3. If you aren’t sure what you’re going to do, it’s time to examine your work. The longer you’re in business, the more accustom you become to creating work that you think clients will want.
                          4. Take less action, spend more time resting. Refill your curiosity, dreams, and imagination tanks. Hope is built upon a dream, not crushing reality.
                          5. More will be revealed.
                          6. Now is not the time to return to where you’ve been. Instead, it’s about heading to where you want to be.
                          7. Say thank you to the voices who want to help and care, even when they don’t understand what you’re trying to do.
                          8. Show Links
                            • How much YOU is in YOUR work?
                            • Midjourney prompt for episode art: the long road ahead, storm chasers, cinematic lighting –ar 16:9
                            • 16 min
                            • “I Can’t Wait to See What I Do Next” with gough (GWTW769)

                              Everyone’s favorite blind Australian filmmaker is back on the podcast to promote his latest film, Idiom. Okay, everyone is a strong descriptor, how about: my favorite blind Australian filmmaker. I can’t help it, gough makes me chortle (his word, not mine). From the angle he would take on true crime podcasts and why crime shows are awful and depressing, to providing educational moments related to geography, grammar, and other assorted (and assertive) topics, gough brings the Beernuts Productions fun factory straight to your earholes with production tales and stories of creative exploration. We talk about how he approached this film differently than previous films, how he wrote with the lead actress in mind, things you can’t unsee or even unlearn, and must importantly, the hard truth that you can’t “unstupid” stupid people. As you’ll learn in this episode, gough is a healer, and a helper. So, sit back, and let him mildly entertain you for a good, solid 50 minutes.

                              Show Links
                              • Beernuts Productions category on Getting Work To Work
                              • Beernuts Productions
                                • Idiom
                                • Reluctant Hero’s – Horse Race Commentators
                                • The War on Drugs
                                • The Education System
                                • Episode 10 – The Neil Maxwell Smith Interview
                                • The Beernuts Productions Podcast
                                • If I Did It: Confessions of the Killer by O.J. Simpson
                                • “gough in the trunk” on Instagram
                                • Argylle (2024)
                                • Wonka (2023)
                                • The Muppets (2011)
                                • 1 hr 1 min

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                                Getting Work To Work is a weekly podcast for creative entrepreneurs, storytellers, visionaries, and change-makers who are on a mission of chasing big ideas, telling epic stories, and leaving living…