On today's Pod Craig sits down with two guys who grew up in the punk and hardcore scene and are also instructors for the union we all work for. Warren Renfrow who played in Final conflict, Cadillac tramps, and currently plays with Manic Hispanic tells myself and Ryan Anselone an awesome Sober hulk smash hardcore kids, who is also an instructor for my union with stories about the early punk days and how they both crawled out of their worlds to become teachers and leaders of men. this is a great pod.

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