In this episode, we explore all the ways, big and small, that repressing negativity can fuck your life up. Ft. Brooke (A.K.A. Katies mommy).

"Don't be a pansy. Play in the shadows once in a while or you will get sunburnt and then all of our vacations will be ruined."

I'm Katie and I approve of this message.

Katie has a Spencer's gifts tarot deck. David has a Diablo tarot deck. Which deck is the ultimate tarot deck? You decide.

We discuss an article David found about the ancient skeptics and how it compares to a chapter in a psychology textbook Katie read about perception.

The idea that life is a video game from the perspective of 3 video game addicts, one recovered, and one hater AND we've set up a little game for you to play while listening. Play a game while listening to ideas about games within games. You're welcome.

Transferring our consciousness in dreams, sleep paralysis and the astral projection escape root, messages from the divine, the waiting room that takes you to other timelines, and how they could all co-exist in this separate dream realm. Email us at [email protected] to tell us your cool dream stories.

We went on a journey to David's new place. The car part of the episode is iffy quality(tried my best) but we talk about synchronicities and daddy Tarot spanking us. At David's new place we try out a new segment-Monad vs. Cat, where we bring up a hot topic for humans and discuss it from our perspective and then we try to answer from the perspective of Cat and Monad.

Science and monism are flirting, and it leads us into some trippy conversation about the death of the universe, the concept of infinity, and the infamous "programmer" of our reality- if that is their real name. We end it with a fight about the contents of the article that this episode was inspired by.

Just two highly unqualified people talking about our perception of money problems in America and how we think we could come together to begin to seek solutions.

David and Katie talk about immersing oneself in the physical world around them and also about acknowledging the practicality and hard truths of this earthly plane. You know, just contributing some more bad vibes to the spiritual community<3 Someone has to do it- You're welcome.

Katie, David, and Shawn talk about how consciousness blows, it isn't helpful for baby making, and a lot of people don't want it. Also, Katie thinks a lot of animals have more of it than we think.