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Show Notes:
00:00 impression of survivor about Greenspan’s representation of their story
03:00 1970s interview for psychologist
04:20 depth rather than breadth of his interviews with Holocaust survivors
6:25 collaborative meetings with survivors
7:00 Agi Rubin described good interviews as learning together
9:00 Process of creating courses, books, plays from conversations with survivors
13:45 Greenspan’s dissertation topic on this became his life’s work
15:10 Agi Rubin: I’m not a “Survivor” as a category.
18:35 On Listening to Holocaust Survivors: Beyond Testimony
19:00 Leon’s recollection of murder of Paul Lieberman
22:10 Leon’s correction that his recollection is not a story; it must be made a story
25:30 Remnants
29:50 Reflections: Auschwitz, Memory and a Life Recreated
35:40 Death/Play or the Mad Jester of the Warsaw Ghetto
41:20 source material for Death/Play or the Mad Jester of the Warsaw Ghetto
44:40 short play Gravediggers involving the Ukraine
47:20 Greenspan’s view of injustice
48:00 His work is ‘disposable people’ studies
49:40 Corruption
53:00 what we do together is where hope is
53:45 per Agi Rubin, legacy is not up to her
Please share your comments and/or questions at [email protected]
Music by Toulme.
To hear more episodes, please visit Warfare of Art and Law podcast's website.
To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at [email protected].
Thanks so much for listening!
© Stephanie Drawdy [2025]
By Stephanie Drawdy5
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Send us a text
Please visit Dr. Greenspan's website to learn more.
Show Notes:
00:00 impression of survivor about Greenspan’s representation of their story
03:00 1970s interview for psychologist
04:20 depth rather than breadth of his interviews with Holocaust survivors
6:25 collaborative meetings with survivors
7:00 Agi Rubin described good interviews as learning together
9:00 Process of creating courses, books, plays from conversations with survivors
13:45 Greenspan’s dissertation topic on this became his life’s work
15:10 Agi Rubin: I’m not a “Survivor” as a category.
18:35 On Listening to Holocaust Survivors: Beyond Testimony
19:00 Leon’s recollection of murder of Paul Lieberman
22:10 Leon’s correction that his recollection is not a story; it must be made a story
25:30 Remnants
29:50 Reflections: Auschwitz, Memory and a Life Recreated
35:40 Death/Play or the Mad Jester of the Warsaw Ghetto
41:20 source material for Death/Play or the Mad Jester of the Warsaw Ghetto
44:40 short play Gravediggers involving the Ukraine
47:20 Greenspan’s view of injustice
48:00 His work is ‘disposable people’ studies
49:40 Corruption
53:00 what we do together is where hope is
53:45 per Agi Rubin, legacy is not up to her
Please share your comments and/or questions at [email protected]
Music by Toulme.
To hear more episodes, please visit Warfare of Art and Law podcast's website.
To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at [email protected].
Thanks so much for listening!
© Stephanie Drawdy [2025]

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