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Glance at Culture - Dr. Henry Greenspan On Listening to Holocaust Survivors, Memory, Psychology, the Warsaw Ghetto and Minimalist Theatre


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Show Notes:

00:00 impression of survivor about Greenspan’s representation of their story 

03:00 1970s interview for psychologist 

04:20 depth rather than breadth of his interviews with Holocaust survivors

6:25 collaborative meetings with survivors

7:00 Agi Rubin described good interviews as learning together

9:00 Process of creating courses, books, plays from conversations with survivors

13:45 Greenspan’s dissertation topic on this became his life’s work

15:10 Agi Rubin: I’m not a “Survivor” as a category.

18:35 On Listening to Holocaust Survivors: Beyond Testimony

19:00 Leon’s recollection of murder of Paul Lieberman

22:10 Leon’s correction that his recollection is not a story; it must be made a story

25:30 Remnants  

29:50 Reflections: Auschwitz, Memory and a Life Recreated

35:40 Death/Play or the Mad Jester of the Warsaw Ghetto

41:20 source material for Death/Play or the Mad Jester of the Warsaw Ghetto

44:40 short play Gravediggers involving the Ukraine 

47:20 Greenspan’s view of injustice 

48:00 His work is ‘disposable people’ studies

49:40 Corruption

53:00 what we do together is where hope is

53:45 per Agi Rubin, legacy is not up to her


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Music by Toulme.

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