Chat about school, rugby and more with Gloucester fly-half Charlie Atkinson.

I enjoyed this conversation which includes Charlie taking up football and rugby early in childhood and how football maybe lead to him zeroing in on the fly-half position.

Also discuss the sadness of Charlie's first club Wasps going to the wall and Charlie's teenage conflict over whether to become a pro player or continue his studies at university.

Charlie is a lovely guy and I'm glad that while it's been a difficult

season for Gloucester, it's been one where he's strengthened his claim on the 10 shirt.

We also discuss Charlie's debut for England in the USA.

To follow Charlie on Instagram: @charlieatkinson_

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