Go Wildly Podcast

No guest. Just us — and a summer worth talking about.

Emily and Heather sit back down together for a summer recap: what they've been up to, what they've learned, and what's been quietly shifting beneath the surface. Emily's been having fun on the river. Heather's been adventuring with her kids and bikes. Together they got invited to attend PitchFest with Title Nine — and that opened up some things worth sharing.

We talk about summer maxxing, personal growth over the last year, the value of systems for success, and a surprise listener offer you'll have to tune in to hear about. It's one of those episodes that feels like catching up with friends around a fire.

Links & Mentions
Talent Maker City: talentmakercity.com
First Descents: firstdescents.org
Gritty Habits: grittyhabits.com, code WILDLY10
San Francisco Crosstown Trail: crosstowntrail.org
Title Nine: titlenine.com

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Hosted & Produced by Emily Berlant & Heather White / Go Wildly PodcastTheme Music: "Rainmaker" by Jared Masters — used with permission

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Josh Ward has spent nearly his whole life on the Rogue River. Now part of his job is making sure others get home safely from it.

Born on Maui and raised in Grants Pass since age six, Josh is a Southern Oregon firefighter, Swiftwater Rescue Lead, and SRT instructor who came to firefighting by way of culinary school and restaurants.

We talk about getting swiftwater rescue recognized inside a structural fire agency, learning to raft and maximizing river time with family, all-weather and high-water rescue — why all seasons are swiftwater seasons, what to consider about satellite service on the river, why you should always wear your PFD and what most people underestimate about the Rogue, finding things you want to learn and then actually learning them, Emily's stalkers of 2026, and why alone time in nature connects you to something bigger than yourself. Plus his most-used outdoor gear, advice for his younger self, and how he wants to be remembered.

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Theme Music: "Rainmaker" by Jared Masters — used with permission

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She put a canoe on her vision board. The river called back.Liz Miheve is a BLM park ranger, environmental educator, and Rogue River devotee who followed a series of signs from Minnesota to Southern Oregon — and never really left. Today she introduces people to the landscape she couldn't stop coming back to.We talk about grief and the #deaddadclub, being a green boater and learning how to "girl" in the outdoors, following a vision and a call to Oregon, growing through challenges on the river, her first Grand Canyon trip, her love story, giving back as a river mentor, embracing your weird, and what it means to finally land somewhere that feels like home. Plus her most-used outdoor gear, advice for her younger self, and how she wants to be remembered.LinksContact Liz: [email protected]TAG Ceramics: tagceramics.comETC Trips: etctrips.orgBird Collective: birdcollective.comActive Listener OffersLas Cascadas Lodge — Code GOWILDLY for a complimentary in-house experience on new bookings: www.lascascadaslodge.com/go-wildly-las-cascadasArrowhead River Adventures — Code GOWILDLY for 10% off any half-day rafting trip in 2026 or 2027: arrowheadriveradventures.comKula Cloth — Shop through our link to support the show: kulacloth.com/?avad=436689_e4cf2ef3dSOMA — Mention GOWILDLY for a 2-Week Free Trial + 6-month membership: southernoregonmartialarts.comROW Adventures — Code GOWILDLY, $100 off any multi-day trip 2026-2027: rowadventures.com/multi-day-rafting-tripsLean In Breathwork — Code GOWILDLY, 20% off sauna sessions: calvinlivingston.comFollow Go WildlyYouTube: youtube.com/@gowildlypodcastSpotify: tinyurl.com/spotifygowildlypodcastInstagram: @gowildlypodcastWebsite: gowildlypodcast.comHosted & Produced by Emily Berlant & Heather White / Go Wildly PodcastTheme Music: "Rainmaker" by Jared Masters — used with permissionKeywordsGo Wildly Podcast, Go Wildly, Southern Oregon podcast, outdoor podcast, Emily Berlant, Heather White, Liz Miheve, Sundance Kayak School, BLM park ranger Oregon, environmental educator, Rogue River kayaking, Wild and Scenic Rogue River, green boater, Grand Canyon kayaking, Boundary Waters canoe, vision board, figure skating Minnesota, grief parent death, dead dad club, river mentor, outdoor community, embracing your weird, first aid outdoors, love story outdoors, TAG Ceramics, ETC Trips, Bird Collective, place-based podcast, outdoor lifestyle, whimsy, Kula Cloth

Ryan Thims grew up in Maine, landed in Southern Oregon at 19, and has spent the decades since building adventures in some of the most remote places on earth.

His path runs through river guiding on the Rogue, managing a boutique rainforest resort in Honduras for over a decade, leading SOU's Outdoor Program, and launching Rogue Heli Tours in 2020 — a company that combines helicopter access with rafting, fishing, remote lodge stays, and backcountry experiences most people never knew were possible. He lives in Eagle Point with his wife and their dog Dante, still chasing the next thing.

We talk about helicopters — how they work, what they unlock, and how to charter one — rafting through the Honduran jungle, what New Zealand did to his sense of what's possible, running rivers year-round around the world, drones, building businesses around passions, subsistence hunting, how volunteering opens doors into the arenas you want to be in, and the line that says it all: "every good thing that I've ever had has been from rafting."

Links
Rogue Heli Tours: roguehelitours.com
Las Cascadas Lodge: lascascadaslodge.com
Rogue Rafting Co: rogueraftingco.com
SOU Outdoor Program: sou.edu/outdoor-program

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Las Cascadas Lodge — Code GOWILDLY for a complimentary in-house experience on new bookings: https://www.lascascadaslodge.com/go-wildly-las-cascadas
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Kula Cloth — Shop through our link to support the show: kulacloth.com/?avad=436689_e4cf2ef3d
SOMA — 2-Week Free Trial + 6-month membership: southernoregonmartialarts.com
ROW Adventures — Code GOWILDLY, $100 off any multi-day trip 2026-2027: rowadventures.com/multi-day-rafting-trips
Lean In Breathwork — Code GOWILDLY, 20% off sauna sessions: calvinlivingston.com

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Hosted & Produced by Emily Berlant & Heather White / Go Wildly Podcast
Theme Music: "Rainmaker" by Jared Masters — used with permission

Keywords
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Ashley Drake has spent 15 years turning adventure into a life — and a business.

Co-owner of Arrowhead River Adventures in Grants Pass, Ashley runs trips on the Rogue, teaches wilderness medicine, raises two wild kids named Wren and Rosie, and is usually the first voice you hear when you call — unless she's out on the water, which is entirely possible. She grew up in the Portland area and found her way to Southern Oregon by way of international travel, summer camp, and a husband she met at both.

We talk about how Grants Pass chose them rather than the other way around, organizing international travel and what that teaches you about hosting, the joys and realities of running a small seasonal river outfit with your spouse, settling into home in a small town, making adult friendships, managing energy through a seasonal business, her life's journey from camp counselor to co-owner, a trip to Antarctica, the privilege of hosting outdoor experiences, and her go-to trail snacks. Plus her most-used outdoor gear, advice for her younger self, advice for someone who wants to live like her, and how she wants to be remembered.

Links
arrowheadriveradventures.com | @arrowheadriveradventures
[email protected] | (541) 830-3388
NOLS: nols.edu
Big Lake Youth Summer Camp: biglake.org

Active Listener Offers
Arrowhead River Adventures — Code GOWILDLY for 10% off any half-day rafting trip in 2026 or 2027: arrowheadriveradventures.com
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SOMA — 2-Week Free Trial + 6-month membership: southernoregonmartialarts.com
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Hosted & Produced by Emily Berlant & Heather White / Go Wildly Podcast
Theme Music: "Rainmaker" by Jared Masters — used with permission

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What It Takes to Protect a National Monument with Daniel CollayEpisode 44 | Go Wildly Podcast

Daniel Collay grew up on a farm outside Eugene figuring things out for himself. Southern Oregon kept pulling him back — and eventually became his life's work.

After studying Environmental Studies and Outdoor Adventure Leadership at SOU, a stint in Portland doing ecological restoration, and years at Willow-Witt Ranch — a working farm and conservation property inside the Cascade-Siskiyou National Monument — Daniel became Executive Director of the Friends of Cascade-Siskiyou National Monument in 2024. He's also a Certified Burn Manager, Oregon Master Naturalist, and Talent City Councilor. His send-off line for people leaving Southern Oregon: "I'll see you when you move back."We talk about how national monuments are established and what land protection designations actually mean, the SOU Outdoor Program and how it shaped his friendships, career, and love life, what happens when you get a bunch of outdoor adventure leaders anywhere together, the draw of Southern Oregon, green burial and advice for death and dying, and what it looks like to get involved in your community through local politics and volunteering. Plus his most-used outdoor gear, advice for his younger self, advice for someone who wants to live like him, and how he wants to be remembered.

Links

• cascadesiskiyou.org
• cityoftalent.org/council-mayor
• eugene-or.gov/143/Camps

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Hosted & Produced by Emily Berlant & Heather White / Go Wildly Podcast

Theme Music: "Rainmaker" by Jared Masters — used with permission

Keywords

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Holding Lightly: Land Restoration, Justice & Reciprocity with Jeanine Moy

Episode 42 | Go Wildly Podcast

Jeanine Moy has spent decades learning how to read the land. Vesper Meadow is where that work came alive.

With a degree in Applied Ecology from Cornell and a Master's in Environmental Education from Southern Oregon University, Jeanine's path wound through agroforestry research, plant field studies in the greater Yellowstone region, rock climbing instruction in Colorado, and outdoor science education in Oregon before founding the Vesper Meadow Restoration Preserve and Education Program in 2018 — a living expression of what it means to bring people and land back into right relationship with each other.

We talk about what it takes to restore a landscape and a relationship — with the land, with indigenous partners, with the next generation of stewards. Jeanine shares how she thinks about land justice, reciprocity, generational perspective, and the kind of collaboration that holds lightly enough to let others lead. There are beavers, camas grass, and a meadow slowly becoming itself again. Plus her most-used outdoor gear, advice for her younger self, advice for someone who wants to live like her, and how she wants to be remembered.

Linksvespermeadow.org | @vesper_meadow | [email protected]

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Theme Music: "Rainmaker" by Jared Masters — used with permission

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Klamath Dam Removal, Almeda Fire & Building a River Business with Will Volpert

Episode 41 | Go Wildly Podcast

Will Volpert was born into the river life and continues to choose it.

His parents guided and outfitted whitewater in Idaho. By the time he could walk he already knew the sound of a rapid. Today he and his wife Julie run Indigo Creek Outfitters out of Phoenix, Oregon — running day trips on the Rogue, exploring the newly restored Klamath following the largest dam removal in American history, and turning first-timers into people who can't stop thinking about the next time they'll be on the water.

We talk about learning to listen to podcasts, sleep habits indoors and outdoors, building and growing Indigo Creek Outfitters — business values, culture, and what it takes to run a small family-owned business — the Almeda Fire and post-fire revelations, the birth of the Phoenix Chamber of Commerce, becoming a river guide and outfitter as a kid, lessons from the river, a wildlife encounter, and the Klamath Dam removal through the lens of recreation access and relationship building.

Links

Indigo Creek Outfitters: indigocreekoutfitters.com | @indigocreekoutfitters

Phoenix Oregon Chamber of Commerce: @travelphoenix

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Theme Music: "Rainmaker" by Jared Masters — used with permission

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You Asked, We Answered | Wildly UsEpisode 41 | Go Wildly PodcastIn this episode, Emily & Heather sit down by the river to answer questions submitted by listeners. From embarrassing nature stories, to bucket list activities, to their delusional dreams for the podcast, they answer what you've asked. Active Listener Offers- Kula Cloth — Shop through our link to support the show: kulacloth.com/?avad=436689_e4cf2ef3d- SOMA — 2-Week Free Trial + 6-month membership: southernoregonmartialarts.com- ROW Adventures — Code GOWILDLY, $100 off any multi-day trip 2026-2027: rowadventures.com/multi-day-rafting-trips- Lean In Breathwork — Code GOWILDLY, 20% off sauna sessions: calvinlivingston.comFollow Go WildlyYouTube: youtube.com/@gowildlypodcastSpotify: tinyurl.com/spotifygowildlypodcastInstagram: @gowildlypodcastWebsite: gowildlypodcast.comHosted & Produced by Emily Berlant & Heather White / Go Wildly PodcastTheme Music: "Rainmaker" by Jared Masters — used with permissionKeywordsGo Wildly Podcast, Go Wildly, Southern Oregon podcast, outdoor podcast, Emily Berlant, Heather White, place-based podcast, conservation podcast, Kula Cloth, outdoor adventure podcast, wildlife podcasts, adventure podcast, womens sports podcast, hiking podcast, adventure podcasts, adventure podcast series, outdoor healing, outdoor freedom activism, northwest rivers, river podcast, ask us anything, outdoor dreams, delulu, embarassing outdoor stories, mountain biking, rafting, bucket list

Conservationist of the Year on Rivers, Forests & a Life That Mattered with Julie Norman Episode 40 | Go Wildly Podcast

Julie Norman left a career in tech for whitewater, then left whitewater for a 15-year fight to save old growth forests across Southwest Oregon.

Julie grew up in Texas, earned a Master's in Computer Science and Educational Psychology from the University of Texas, and at 24 walked away from a systems programmer job at IBM to guide whitewater across California, Oregon, and Idaho. At 35 she became President of Headwaters, a Rogue Valley nonprofit fighting old growth overcutting. In 1993 she spoke at President Clinton's Forest Conference, work that contributed to court victories cutting logging on westside public forests by 80 percent. Oregon Wild named her Conservationist of the Year. The Wilderness Society called her an Environmental Hero. Today she's retired, which mostly means nonprofit work, ukulele, and defending democracy.

We talk about how long Julie and Emily have known each other, getting polio at 4 and relearning how to walk, meeting boating at 11, Girl Scouts and camping, leaving corporate tech for river guiding after a Grand Canyon trip, ARTA river trips and Vallecito, the Stanislaus, Tuolumne, and American Rivers, meeting the Rogue River for the first time, Earth First! and living riverside, the history of Galice and the Almeda Mine, early guiding as a woman across Oregon, California, and Idaho, the impacts of living outside, Siskiyou National Forest clear cuts and activism, the value of mentors, the Northwest Forest Plan, Martha Stewart and the Siskiyou Wild Rivers special, her meditation journey and meeting Vipassana, the effects of aging, and her belief that "I don't remember the sad and difficult times hardly at all."

Linksjuliekaynorman.comagnesbakerpilgrim.org/preserving-her-legacy/new-projects

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Hosted & Produced by Emily Berlant & Heather White / Go Wildly Podcast
Theme Music: "Rainmaker" by Jared Masters — used with permission

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