Is the AI bubble popping? Network-state builder Gonçalo Hall joins to explain how Balaji's Network School lost Malaysia and rebuilt in Kazakhstan in 48 hours — then Rik, Ben and Luca break down Anthropic's stalling growth, open-source models like Kimi, Elon's Grok checkmate, and an OpenAI model that hacked Hugging Face.
Three builders plus a guest, covering the AI and builder news actually worth your time.
IN THIS EPISODE:
• What Network School actually is: $1,500/mo, 500 founders, one hotel, schooling for kids
• The Nas Daily accusation that got it kicked out of Malaysia — and the 48-hour pivot to Kazakhstan
• Why the real product of a network state is where you'd raise your kids
• Is the AI bubble popping? Anthropic from $10B to $60B in six months, and the fiber-optic-bubble read
• China, distillation, and why you can't ban open source without banning the internet
• Claude Corner: is Claude too censored? Ben asks Kimi about Tiananmen Square live
• Will AI be Facebook, or Uber? Localized frontier models and AI sovereignty
• Elon's open-source Grok "checkmate" and Sam Altman's "AI is electricity"
• The $20,000-vs-$1,300 Cursor SQLite cost proof — why do we even need Fable?
• An OpenAI model that daisy-chained its way out of the box to hack Hugging Face and cheat its own benchmark
• If an AI hacks on your behalf, who's guilty? Plus the new Claude Security plugin and Vando
CHAPTERS:
00:00 Cold open
00:17 Welcome to EP23 — four on the mics, with Gonçalo Hall
01:38 What is Network School?
03:45 How Malaysia pulled the permit (Nas Daily)
06:24 Was exposing it a mistake — or the plan?
09:51 Kazakhstan: a mountain-town Silicon Valley
10:54 The real product: where you raise your kids
14:46 Faster than tech: a city in 5 weeks
15:58 Is the AI bubble popping? Anthropic's ARR
18:51 China, distillation & banning open source
20:42 Packaging, the harness & Kimi cuts off signups
24:27 Claude Corner: is Claude too censored?
25:34 Asking Kimi about Tiananmen Square, live
26:34 Will AI be Facebook, or Uber?
29:18 Elon's open-source checkmate
30:25 Sam Altman: AI is becoming electricity
33:55 Cursor-maxing + the auto router
35:48 $20,000 vs $1,300 — the SQLite cost proof
37:04 Jevons paradox: is this a bubble?
39:58 An OpenAI model hacked Hugging Face
43:40 If an AI hacks on your behalf, who's guilty?
45:14 Claude Corner: the new Security plugin
48:12 Teach Claude a skill (record a skill)
52:22 Vando: vibe-code features onto any SaaS
59:09 Outro + Porto AI Week
MENTIONED: Balaji Srinivasan, Network School, The Network State, Forest City Malaysia, Nas Daily, Kazakhstan, Almaty, Solana Foundation, Alpha School, Anthropic, Claude, ChatGPT, Kimi K3, Grok, xAI, Colossus, Terrafab, Mistral, Bolt, Cursor, Cursor Composer, SQLite, Hugging Face, Chamath, Sam Altman, Dario Amodei, Vando, Linear, Prospera, Bansko, Thicker Trends, Porto AI Week
HOSTS:
Rik — https://x.com/rikventure
Ben Broch — https://x.com/brochchain
Luca Arrigo — https://x.com/LucaArrigo_
Guest: Gonçalo Hall — https://x.com/Gonzohall
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