In the second part of our podcast about the movie ‘The Train’ Brent talks with Michelle Young about the art curator featured in the movie – Rose Valland.
Michelle is the author of a forthcoming book from Harper One, an imprint of Harper Collins, about the World War 2 Resistance spy. The book will be issued in May 2025 and will be called ‘The Art Spy’.
Michelle is the founder of ‘Untapped New York’ and the author of a number of books about the city. She’s professor of architecture at Columbia University GSAPP and an instructor at CUNY School of Journalism.
- (1:05) How Michelle got interested in Rose Valland and World War 2;
(2:00) Why is Rose still so little known;(4:15) How accurate is the movie ‘The Train’?(6:15) Why did the Nazi’s want all those art treasures?(8:15) Why ‘degenerate’ art?(9:25) How did the Nazi’s use art?(10:10) The ERR;(11:55) The Jeu de Paume – Goring’s private gallery?(12:30) Why Rose decided to save art;(13:25) How did Rose spy on the Germans?(14:40) How many works did Rose document?(15:40) Rose’s interrogation by the Germans;(16:55) Rose suspected by French partisans;(18:15) The German plans for Rose;(18:55) The last art train to Germany. How did Rose and the resistance stop the train from leaving Paris?(20:50) Rose – a monuments woman?(22:00) The Nuremberg Trials;(22:20) Rose’s awards and decorations;(24:30) Rose’s view of ‘The Train’ adaptation.Links mentioned in this episode:
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